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KLEMPSUM: Keys to Victory

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FORGET fsu! WF is GOOD!

This was one Wake Forest should’ve won. This would’ve been no upset. Florida State beat the Deacons 26-19 Saturday, but Wake walked away from this one with a gnawing feeling that it has a better team than FSU and that the next win might be a long ways off. The first loss of the season for the Deacons might turn out to be the biggest loss of the season. Florida State scored late to break the hearts of Wake fans everywhere, but there were no tears of joy for hanging around. Wake wanted no part of a moral victory.

Wake should’ve won this game. “It’s hard to say you’re better than a team when you didn’t beat them,” Dave Clawson said afterward. “We can play with these people.” There will be a lot of these people now. Road trips to Clemson and Georgia Tech await. And then Louisville and Notre Dame come after that. With what’s still ahead for the Deacs, this was one they’ll look back on and see as an opportunity wasted. Wake might be better than it thought it was. Wake is definitely better than Florida State thought. And now the grueling run through the schedule continues.

Now 4-1, it will be interesting to see where the Deacons go from here. Last week’s win over Appalachian State was an emotional high. Saturday’s loss to FSU was an emotional low. Clawson said the team was crushed. [NO WAY!] All week, the coaches and players watched Florida State on tape. They saw the big defensive linemen and the mobile linebackers. They saw the speed of the skill players and the secondary. But they didn’t see the same Florida State team they’d seen all those years ago. They saw the team they played close the past two seasons.

“We went into the game really believing that we could win the game,” Clawson said. And as the game wound down, and all the plays of the day added up to 19-19 with less than a minute to play, it was all going to be reduced to one play. But looking back on it, every play in the entire game was the biggest play of the game.

Wake took away Florida State’s inside run game early. That came as a shock to the Seminoles, who stubbornly tried off and on all day to establish the power game. But the Deacons were stronger up front. FSU’s biggest plays came mostly outside, and of the 149 yards rushing for Florida State, 96 came on two plays. The fact is, Wake reduced FSU to a desperation attack. And that’s ultimately what did in the Deacons. A 69-yard run by Jacques Patrick came when the Deacs had the Noles pinned on their 1-yard line. A 43-yard catch by Keith Gavin came on third-and-20 and led to Florida State’s tying field goal with 6:20 to play.’

And then the FSU touchdown pass from James Blackman to Auden Tate came in the desperate final minute. From the outset, the Deacs figured out the Florida State linemen couldn’t stop the Wake pass rush. They’d seen it on film, but until it became apparent to FSU too in the first quarter, the Deacons didn’t know how Jimbo Fisher and the Florida State offense would react. The reaction was a series of screen passes and runs to the edge, downfield routes and spread formations. Florida State decided it could beat Wake Forest with athleticism. And that was the second great shock to Fisher and FSU.

Wake is every bit as fast as Florida State and even more physical. This isn’t your mother’s Wake Forest football team. Clawson has built a program capable of winning games against the best programs in America. But now it’s going to be tested. Wake might indeed be better than Florida State, but Clemson is too. Maybe a lot better. And Georgia Tech showed Saturday that it’s going to be tough to beat at home. And then will come a blood-letting, the first return of Louisville to Winston-Salem since the Cardinals received inside information from a Wake Forest informant last year and then lied about it.

This is how it’s going to be for the Deacs from here on out. Every game will be an emotional Ferris wheel. And every play of every game could decide it. Wake Forest will try and forget what happened Saturday against Florida State. But it’s likely to linger. This one will haunt the Deacons. Wake ran down Florida State again, something they’ve done time and again in their history. But beating FSU takes its toll as the Deacs found out yet again.

Wake beat Florida State in every way possible Saturday. And then lost at the bitter end. Contact Ed Hardin at 336-373-7069, and follow @Ed_Hardin on Twitter.
 
Get 7+ turnovers and hope the flu runs rampant through Clemson's starters this week?
 
We'll get a moral victory if Wolford comes out of the game upright without injury. Clemson's D looks extremely imposing. Even as good as the FSU game was yesterday they dominated with time of possession. Clemson will do the same and score a lot more points based on their season-to-date performance. If we keep them under 50 and we score more than 10 I'll be surprised. They're just so good, and playing at home.
 
We'll get a moral victory if Wolford comes out of the game upright without injury. Clemson's D looks extremely imposing. Even as good as the FSU game was yesterday they dominated with time of possession. Clemson will do the same and score a lot more points based on their season-to-date performance. If we keep them under 50 and we score more than 10 I'll be surprised. They're just so good, and playing at home.

Of course I dream of winning that game, but really if we're standing 4-2 that's what most of us thought was best case halfway through the season before the season started and we thought FSU wasn't such a winnable game. Knocking on wood as I type, we've been incredibly fortunate with injuries so far. I guess probably the biggest injury we've had is Haynes missing the App game, so I hope we come out of Death Valley still heathly, because I think our starters are pretty dang good.
 
Our D line is good enough to make it a game for some period of time. Can our offense and special teams perform their best at beyond loud DV?
 
Our D can keep us in the game. Clemson's offense is not nearly as lethal as the past couple of seasons. Their D though looks even stronger than 2016.

If we continue with the vanilla play calling with no outside rushing threat we can't score enough to keep it a game.

Based on what I've seen the last 2 weeks I'm saying 31-13 in favor of the cow humpers. We're not willing to open up the O and our D can only hold for so long.
 
Tall task on the road but would be so WF to somehow make it a game after yesterday's disappointment at home. :tard:
 
No injuries. Survive and advance to the open week. God bless all the Deacons that travel down there for the game. Clemson will be mailing it in, that's our only hope.
 
That chunk of the FSU game where our team argued about the proper method of predicting wins and losses for the bulk of our remaining schedule didn't seem to help. Wouldn't be a total shocker to see it again, but we'd probably be better off if we avoid that.
 
The FSU running backs ran 40 times for 200 yards net

Clemson's oline is much better than the FSU line as evidenced by how many times we tacked for loss.

If FSU backs run for 5 yards while our backs run for less than 2 yards a carry we will normally lose.

Boston College played with them into the fourth quarter because their punter kicked it inside the 15 like 7 tomes
 
The FSU running backs ran 40 times for 200 yards net

Clemson's oline is much better than the FSU line as evidenced by how many times we tacked for loss.

If FSU backs run for 5 yards while our backs run for less than 2 yards a carry we will normally lose.

Boston College played with them into the fourth quarter because their punter kicked it inside the 15 like 7 tomes

If our punter averages over 50 yards a kick and we win the turnover battle by at least 3 we might cover the 21 point spread.

We beat Klempton in volleyball and baseball and soccer and tennis and will next year in basketball but as long as Dabo is there not in football.
 
Get other players involved besides Wolford and Dortch.

Get the same protection against Clemson we got against FSU

Call better plays - throw more and run normal running plays (see our scoring touchdown) rather than see if you can squat behind the center for a few seconds and hope the opponent forget you have the ball, hasn't worked yet, they always seem to know the ball is there.

Get better play out of our linebackers on the run. They have to hold the gaps better, particular Dawson. He's great at hitting holes, not so great and plugging gaps.

Hope Bates remains super human on D and our corners continue to play good aggressive coverage without getting called for interference.
 
Get other players involved besides Wolford and Dortch.

Get the same protection against Clemson we got against FSU

Call better plays - throw more and run normal running plays (see our scoring touchdown) rather than see if you can squat behind the center for a few seconds and hope the opponent forget you have the ball, hasn't worked yet, they always seem to know the ball is there.

Get better play out of our linebackers on the run. They have to hold the gaps better, particular Dawson. He's great at hitting holes, not so great and plugging gaps.

Hope Bates remains super human on D and our corners continue to play good aggressive coverage without getting called for interference.

These are all great observations and combined with winning the turnover battle by 2 or 3 we could cover the spread this week.

More importantly if we do these things we will go to a bowl game in a season many expected us not to.
 
Agree WF must bring into play calling other skill players but the others must step up the way Dortch has. No dropped passes and no more passes into the dirt. Receivers have to grab balls out of the air and fight for the contested ones. No fumbling and no mistakes downing the ball on punts at the end zone. No more crazy kickoff formations our players can't implement to perfection.

But big problem at DV will be communication. Watch our guys come back after game and say they weren't prepared for the difficulty of communicating with each other among the DBs and OL.
 
we can play well enough to beat them but there is no way the ACC refs will allow us to win, the league has no interest in Wake winning

This. It will be full panic mode and flag-day if we were to seriously challenge the golden goose.
 
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