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    That's the sickest burn involving the National Cathedral since Jed Bartlet in the West Wing's S2 finale.

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    As an aside, Pence reminds me more and more of a pod person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeacHead View Post
    That's the sickest burn involving the National Cathedral since Jed Bartlet in the West Wing's S2 finale.
    One of the best scenes in the history of network television.

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    And instead of seeing this as Christians worried about the direction of their party, Republicans will circle the wagons and claim bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WakeForestRanger View Post
    “But abortion !”

    What’s really messed up about this, what-should-be-unprecedented-statement, is that evangelicals for trump won’t be affected by it because they’d rather sell their faith and witness out than simply, and I mean simply, say “you know, I really can’t justify this anymore.” Pete’s statement in last night’s debate on republicans was accurate but it can also apply to Christians for trump.

    Wrangor, who will you vote for when it’s Trump vs any of the viable Dems?

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    Agreed. There’s probably more who call it out but not as public. Unfortunately, they’re drowned out by the rabid Jeffries’ of the world.

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    That’s a very good article. I’m glad that at least a few ministers are still promoting the gospel and not the cult of Trump.

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    Agreed. There’s probably more who call it out but not as public. Unfortunately, they’re drowned out by the rabid Jeffries’ of the world.
    There are. I know some that are doing so in some congregations located in some pretty rural places that would probably surprise folks here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WakeForestRanger View Post
    That’s a very good article. I’m glad that at least a few ministers are still promoting the gospel and not the cult of Trump.
    Agreed. That’s a strong article.

    Not sure who said a Pete nomination could be the final event that causes a major schism among white Christians, but the more I think about it, it he was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFFaithful View Post
    One of the myths of Evangelicals is that the Anti-Christ will fool all non-believers into thinking that he is the new Messiah (or real Messiah), and they will blindly follow him to their doom. Given their blind adoration and cult-like devotion to Trump - who certainly is an "Anti-Christ" in many respects - it appears that Evangelicals are far more likely to fall for an Anti-Christ, and blindly adore and worship him, than non-believers are.

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    Well that makes sense given that Evangelicals are obviously more likely to blindly believe anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDA View Post
    “But abortion !”

    What’s really messed up about this, what-should-be-unprecedented-statement, is that evangelicals for trump won’t be affected by it because they’d rather sell their faith and witness out than simply, and I mean simply, say “you know, I really can’t justify this anymore.” Pete’s statement in last night’s debate on republicans was accurate but it can also apply to Christians for trump.

    Wrangor, who will you vote for when it’s Trump vs any of the viable Dems?
    He’s already told us that Joe Biden is the only Dem he’d vote for, and only if he steers clear of Medicare for all.
    Birds are real.

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    Wrangor as I recall is totally against changes to healthcare because socialism and government spending etc.

    I also recall that Wrangor is a farmer. I wonder if he rejected that social giveaway to farmers? Or whether he rejected that tax cut which was paid for by government borrowing rather than spending cuts.

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    An American religious fundamentalist missionary to Uganda, Renee Bach, is being sued in Ugandan court for the deaths of 105 people under her care. At the age of 20, she moved to the Ugandan city of Jinja, bought a large house using money raised from fundie US churches and turned it into a center for feeding local kids. At some point she started providing medical care for impoverished Ugandans, despite having no medical training whatsoever (she doesn't have a college degree.) Apparently she was gaining her medical knowledge from Google.

    Eventually, she did employ 3 Ugandan nurses and an American nurse, Jackie Kramlich. Bach turned part of her shelter into something called "the clinic." Kramlich grew disillusioned with Bach, who continued to perform medical services with no training (including blood transfusions for babies) when nurses were not present, and Kramlich was appalled at how sick many of the people Bach took in were - "They weren't just malnourished. They had complicated illnesses. Pneumonia, intestinal parasites, tuberculosis, many were in stage 4 HIV," Kramlich says. Almost every week a child would die. Kramlich says she thought of Bach's actions that "It's just horrifying...This isn't a game." Kramlich eventually reported Bach to Ugandan police, and her "clinic" was finally shut down in 2015. A Ugandan health inspector wrote that on his visit to the clinic he found "very sick children who needed referral to higher centers" and that Bach had finally obtained a health license for her clinic, but had let it expire.

    A Ugandan civil rights attorney, Primah Kwagala, has filed a civil lawsuit against Bach on behalf of two mothers whose children died under her care. "We couldn't imagine a human being without skill taking into her care people that were almost on their deathbeds." Kwagala also says there's a larger principle at stake: Imagine, says Kwagala, if a 20-something Ugandan woman had gone to the U.S. and set up an equivalent arrangement to treat impoverished American children. "She would have been prosecuted. She would have been behind bars," says Kwagala. In the U.S., says Kwagala, "I don't think she would have lasted two hours." A hearing in the case is scheduled for January 2020.

    I've read that Uganda and several other African nations have become popular spots for American fundamentalist missionaries to set up shop and "help" the natives while spreading the gospel. I've also read stories about some of these missionaries doing some strange stuff - preaching hatred of gays and the need to keep gay rights out of their countries, some female missionaries serving as midwives who have little to no actual medical training, and all the rest. In the blog she kept of her missionary work, Bach almost seemed to brag about her medical procedures, and posted pictures of herself performing types of medical care for which she had no training whatsoever. But hey, who needs experts in their fields in these times, right? Bach probably stayed in a Holiday Inn once!

    Link: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...dan-kids-105-d

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    Quote Originally Posted by WakeForestRanger View Post
    Isn’t this video from the campaign? The rubes have heard this before, and guess what? They don’t care.

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    That's an old video. Haplerin isn't working with Heilman any more.

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