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First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation

WakeForestRanger said:
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This is a good read.

Still, the congressional Democrats have made it easier for Trump and his henchmen to get away with this. The messy fight now underway centers largely on process matters: Will the Justice Department make an unredacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report available to Congress and the public? Will Attorney General Bill Barr testify before the House? Is he protecting Trump and obstructing Congress? Will Mueller testify? Will Don McGahn, the former White House counsel? Will Hope Hicks, the former White House communications director? Will the White House and others respond to subpoenas and testimony requests? And so on. These are all significant battles—pieces of the larger clash over Trump’s above-the-law refusal to accept the legitimacy of congressional oversight. But these skirmishes, which occur alongside the phony disputes hatched by Fox News and GOPers trying to protect Trump, do prevent much of the public from concentrating on the thing itself: what went on in 2016. And Trump certainly would rather tussle over obstruction than betrayal. To many Americans, all this probably comes across as a giant political dust storm. It’s a mess. Each week—every day—the focus shifts. There is no story to hold on to. This chaos is good for Trump; the chaos is the cover-up.
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Could the House Democrats appoint some type of outside counsel or spokesperson to coordinate their operation? It may be helpful if they had their own communicator to unify the message and counter Trump. Schiff, Nadler, and Pelosi just aren’t doing it because they want to appear above the fray.
 
On Monday evening, Trump held a campaign rally in Pennsylvania at which he ranted that his campaign had been spied on and that the federal investigators who had probed Russiagate had committed “treason.” In response, the crowd chanted, “Lock them up!” This was both absurd and dangerous. Yet it showed once again that Trump has a simple, if false, story to peddle: He’s the victim of a wide-ranging fraud orchestrated by a cabal of nefarious connivers who despise him and the country. Those who give a damn about protecting democracy, though, also have a simple story: Putin attacked an election to help Trump, and Trump actively went along with it—and lied to cover up the attack. Yet Trump’s political opposition—up against a bombardment of spin and deception—has not continuously presented this case clearly. It’s not too late to do so. They need to fight false spin with truthful drama—and, whatever happens on the obstruction and impeachment fronts, they ought to do it soon.
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PhDeac said:
Could the House Democrats appoint some type of outside counsel or spokesperson to coordinate their operation? It may be helpful if they had their own communicator to unify the message and counter Trump. Schiff, Nadler, and Pelosi just aren’t doing it because they want to appear above the fray.
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Not sure but they should. There should be an independent commission similar to the 9/11 one that looks into it.

Mueller’s work barely touched on the counterintelligence aspect of the investigation...at least from what was released publicly.
 
ImTheCaptain said:
surprise, weird conservative religious republican unconditionally supports human pile of trash and opposite of Christian Donald Trump
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Wait...I post that Mueller and others SHOULD testify and this is the response? Somebody needs to take a Valium.
 
Wrangor said:
Wait...I post that Mueller and others SHOULD testify and this is the response? Somebody needs to take a Valium.
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You talk about "fake news" but refuse to address a list of true events.

You also neglect to address the fact that Mueller directly called Barr's statement (that you championed) out as false.
 
RJKarl said:
You talk about "fake news" but refuse to address a list of true events.

You also neglect to address the fact that Mueller directly called Barr's statement (that you championed) out as false.
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Who cares anymore, man.

He’s probably just trolling you. If he’s not, if Wrangor can’t figure this shit out then he sucks irrevocably. Between common sense and empathy, he’s missing some fucking thing that makes the majority of human beings tick. Who honestly gives a shit about what that person thinks about the once in a history of a country-level disgrace that’s in the White House.

So, like you’re either being trolled or it’s a lost cause. Just put the dude on ignore and live life.
 
Every time a LUBE utters the words cover up what the LUBE has to admit the LUBE is saying is “Trump snookered our 18 best lawyers in the country with an unlimited budget and unlimited authority.” To make the allegation is to admit failure.
 
https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-big-idiot-president-is-not-getting-himself-impeache-1834981998

“The weirdest, saddest, and most unhelpful people, maybe in all the world, are: boomer liberals (like the leadership of the Democratic party, for example) who look upon Donald Trump’s lifelong track record of failing at petty crook shit—doing petty crook shit and not only getting away with it but in many cases declaring his failure a great success, and then being rewarded with greater fame and stature in turn—and insist they are seeing the work of a mastermind, rather than the tides of American life and culture carrying yet another born-rich shit-for-brains white asshole past and above any and all demands and consequences. The idea of Trump is the sucker-ass belief in meritocracy, in hoary old Great Man bullshit, twisted into its most horrible gargoyle incarnation. He’s rich and famous, he’s the president of the country, and therefore it just simply must be the case that he has earned this station for himself, one way or another, via some expression of traits that make him equal to it. He has to be some kind of genius, even if it’s the evil kind. There is no way that a braying worthless dope, a man with no qualities of any kind to recommend him, could have ended up where Trump has ended up.”
 
Yep, if you think you're a gazin' upon a deserving or worthy mastermind instead of an unfortunate manifestation of crass/vacuous bravado and mass gullibility then that's pretty sad.
 
Strickland33 said:
https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/the-big-idiot-president-is-not-getting-himself-impeache-1834981998

“The weirdest, saddest, and most unhelpful people, maybe in all the world, are: boomer liberals (like the leadership of the Democratic party, for example) who look upon Donald Trump’s lifelong track record of failing at petty crook shit—doing petty crook shit and not only getting away with it but in many cases declaring his failure a great success, and then being rewarded with greater fame and stature in turn—and insist they are seeing the work of a mastermind, rather than the tides of American life and culture carrying yet another born-rich shit-for-brains white asshole past and above any and all demands and consequences. The idea of Trump is the sucker-ass belief in meritocracy, in hoary old Great Man bullshit, twisted into its most horrible gargoyle incarnation. He’s rich and famous, he’s the president of the country, and therefore it just simply must be the case that he has earned this station for himself, one way or another, via some expression of traits that make him equal to it. He has to be some kind of genius, even if it’s the evil kind. There is no way that a braying worthless dope, a man with no qualities of any kind to recommend him, could have ended up where Trump has ended up.”
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Typical lazy bullshit. It was those who knew Trump and his business actions who tried to warn the nation about him as millennials stayed home and didn't vote.

All you need to know about the writer is found on this page. Of course, his obsession with a bear jerking off would fit in with the millennials here.
 
RJKarl said:
Typical lazy bullshit. It was those who knew Trump and his business actions who tried to warn the nation about him as millennials stayed home and didn't vote.

All you need to know about the writer is found on this page. Of course, his obsession with a bear jerking off would fit in with the millennials here.
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read the fucking article, man
 
The weirdest, saddest, and most unhelpful people, maybe in all the world, are: boomer liberals (like the leadership of the Democratic party, for example) who look upon Donald Trump’s lifelong track record of failing at petty crook shit—doing petty crook shit and not only getting away with it but in many cases declaring his failure a great success, and then being rewarded with greater fame and stature in turn—and insist they are seeing the work of a mastermind, rather than the tides of American life and culture carrying yet another born-rich shit-for-brains white asshole past and above any and all demands and consequences. The idea of Trump is the sucker-ass belief in meritocracy, in hoary old Great Man bullshit, twisted into its most horrible gargoyle incarnation. He’s rich and famous, he’s the president of the country, and therefore it just simply must be the case that he has earned this station for himself, one way or another, via some expression of traits that make him equal to it.

For years, most of us "boomer liberals" have been SCREAMING who Trump was, is and always will be. But the rednecks, silent millennials and scared white people wouldn't listen. We TRIED to be helpful, but you wouldn't listen nor would others in the midwest and south.

The premise of what you quoted "The weirdest, saddest, and most unhelpful people, maybe in all the world, are: boomer liberals (like the leadership of the Democratic party, for example) who look upon Donald Trump’s lifelong track record" was addressed by us and no one paid attention.
 
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