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2017-18 Men's College Basketball Thread (NWT)

State's Y7 to transfer to Georgetown to play for Patrick Ewing who he calls the "best big man coach."

Wait, what? Not DM??! :tard:

There's a semi-no/no about non-grad transferring within the ACC. It's very, very, very rare.
 
Not accurate. Cam Johnson transferred from Pitt to UNC last year (which eliminated any chance of Pitt even being semi-competitive last year). Our own Keyshawn is considering L'ville. Grad transfers can and will go anywhere.
 
There's a semi-no/no about non-grad transferring within the ACC. It's very, very, very rare.

Regular (undergrad) transfers have to lose a year of playing eligibility if they transfer within the ACC. Also they are not eligible for athletic financial aid at the new school if they were getting it at their old school in the year prior to transfer. That really makes within conference transfers undesirable for the player. That is the conference rules that enforces the "semi no/no.

This does not apply to grad student transfers between teams in the ACC. They are eligible immediately.

Y7 is transferring as an undergrad. If he had transferred to Wake, he would have to pay his own way for a year, not be able to play until fall 2019 and would lose the 2018-2019 year of eligibility to play. He would only be able to play a total of three years. At Georgetown he will be eligible to play in fall 2019 after sitting out the 2018-2019 basketball season, and he could be on athletic scholarship during the 2018-2019 season. He would be able to play a total of four years.
 
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Not accurate. Cam Johnson transferred from Pitt to UNC last year (which eliminated any chance of Pitt even being semi-competitive last year). Our own Keyshawn is considering L'ville. Grad transfers can and will go anywhere.

Cam Johnson left Pitt with his degree. He was injured his first year at Pitt and was granted a medical redshirt. So he was a grad student transfer to UNC. Therefore immediately eligible.
From his bio on the UNC official web site:

CAREER
Graduated with honors from the University of Pittsburgh in three years with a degree in communications • Working toward his master’s degree in UNC’s exercise and sport science sports administration graduate master’s program • Two-time Academic All-ACC team selection • Earned CoSIDA Academic all-district honors in 2017 • Made 34 starts in 73 games over two full seasons (plus eight games as a freshman before suffering a season-ending injury) for the Panthers • Played his first two seasons for head coach Jamie Dixon and 2016-17 for Kevin Stallings • Career stats at Pitt include 583 points, 217 rebounds and 97 assists • Made 116 three-pointers and shot 39.9 percent (116 of 291) from three-point range.

Keyshawn is leaving Wake with a degree and will be a grad transfer.
 
Regular (undergrad) transfers have to sit an additional year (two years total if they transfer within the ACC. That really makes within conference transfers undesirable for the player. That is the conference rule that enforces the "semi no/no.

Y7 is transferring as an undergrad. If he had transferred to Wake, he would not be able to play until fall 2020. At Georgetown he will be eligible to play in fall 2019 after sitting out the 2018-2019 basketball season.

I don't think this is accurate. It is my understanding that the reason guys don't transfer within the ACC is because you lose a year of eligibility. I don't think you have to sit a 2nd year, you just lose a year of eligibility in the year you sit out. So you can only play 3 total seasons instead of 4.

Link to the bylaws:
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/acc/genrel/auto_pdf/ACCEligibilityRules.pdf
 
I don't think this is accurate. It is my understanding that the reason guys don't transfer within the ACC is because you lose a year of eligibility. I don't think you have to sit a 2nd year, you just lose a year of eligibility in the year you sit out. So you can only play 3 total seasons instead of 4.

Link to the bylaws:
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/acc/genrel/auto_pdf/ACCEligibilityRules.pdf

You are correct. That is a change since I last paid attention to that issue.

It is only a one year sit out. It does count as a year of eligibility "used"

However, the within conference transfer is much more difficult because the student athlete cannot receive athletically related financial aid at the new school until he has completed a year there, if he was receiving athletically related financial aid at his previous school in the academic year prior to the transfer. That means pay your own way at a new school following a within the conference transfer and lose a year of eligibility while doing it.
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I know it's just against the Fightin' Ned Ryersons, but dang, Zion Williamson is looking legit, Barrett too.
 
Just saw the FT line video. That shouldn't be possible.
 
mehhhhhh

UVA wins the conference easily again, and Duke goes out in the Sweet 16.
 
I kinda like UVa as a natty title pick this year. Everyone will be convinced they can't possibly win in the NCAAT now -- seems like a good time to zig while others are zagging
 
I kinda like UVa as a natty title pick this year. Everyone will be convinced they can't possibly win in the NCAAT now -- seems like a good time to zig while others are zagging

Is what I said before the NCAA Tournament last year.
 
Why is it a good bet at any odds? Bennett hasn't even made a Final Four in spite of being Top 5 multiple years and #1. He's made one Elite 8 but is also the only #1 seed in NCAAT history to lose to a #16 seed.

Bennett has proven himself to be a top tier regular season coach and an underachiever in the post season.
 
A shocking turn of events.

I'm not one to assume things can't happen or make blanket statements. Similar things were said about Alex Ovechkin and the Washington Capitals before this season to use but one example -- now they are Stanley Cup champions
 
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Why is it a good bet at any odds? Bennett hasn't even made a Final Four in spite of being Top 5 multiple years and #1. He's made one Elite 8 but is also the only #1 seed in NCAAT history to lose to a #16 seed.

Bennett has proven himself to be a top tier regular season coach and an underachiever in the post season.

Because that’s how odds work? I generally agree with your assessment of Bennett, but you wouldn’t put down $50 if the odds were say 200-1? 2000-1?
 
Nope. If you don't think he's going to win. The odds are totally immaterial.

It's one thing to decide to make a bet at 5-1 versus 7/5 by the odds, because you think each can win. But if you don't think the side can win, the odds don't matter.
 
Nope. If you don't think he's going to win. The odds are totally immaterial.

It's one thing to decide to make a bet at 5-1 versus 7/5 by the odds, because you think each can win. But if you don't think the side can win, the odds don't matter.

Will you offer me 2000-1 odds on UVA winning the national title next year? Would seem to be an easy $50 for you.
 
I don't bet on this site. Other than Shorty, others haven't paid and have sworn they would.

People taking high odds on things they don't think will win is a reason why people are able to build billion dollar casinos.
 
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