CNN Townhall with Parkland Students, Rubio, NRA and others

I find it interesting that after a decade of demonizing public school teachers, there are Republicans out there who think they should be the ones to step up to the plate and take on the role of armed protector of the kids they are teaching.

they don’t really. it’s a distraction

PhDeac said:

I'm sure there are some gun owners who support reasonable gun regulations and have deep pockets who could foot the bill.

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Seriously. Instead of donating a billion dollars to Harvard, some rich guy could choose to outpay what the NRA can pay for some of these empty suit lapdogs. Some of them are probably pretty cheap whores so it wouldn’t even take that much.

*cough*oncampusarena*cough*

Liquid Karma said:

I find it interesting that after a decade of demonizing public school teachers, there are Republicans out there who think they should be the ones to step up to the plate and take on the role of armed protector of the kids they are teaching.

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No. They want more reasons to demonize public school teachers. If they pass this legislation and Ms. Johnson makes it out alive and little Susie doesn’t, they care blame Ms. Johnson for not being armed.

How many armed people were at the Fort hood or Naval base shooting? Any gun nut have an answer for that, why highly trained good guys with guns couldn’t stop it before multiple fatalities?

Louis Gossett Jr said:

How many armed people were at the Fort hood or Naval base shooting? Any gun nut have an answer for that, why highly trained good guys with guns couldn’t stop it before multiple fatalities?

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And the victims of Mother Emmanuel obviously weren't praying.

Exactly. Not only do they expect us to do their parenting for them they also want to be their kids' armed security guards.

BillBrasky said:

Exactly. Not only do they expect us to do their parenting for them they also want to be their kids security guards.

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brasky are you going to go with the automatic giving you faster firing and more rounds or the more reliable revolver?

ImTheCaptain said:

brasky are you going to go with the automatic giving you faster firing and more rounds or the more reliable revolver?

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I've inherited a few metal filings cabinets which should perfectly support a gatling gun. They face towards the door too, so I can mow down anything that enters my room.

Fuck these guys. I'll see you at the voting booth.

NRA's Wayne LaPierre makes it clear he isn't backing down on guns — or the culture wars

National Rifle Association Executive Director and CEO Wayne LaPierre launched into criticisms of socialists, the FBI and the media Thursday, as he defended gun rights from the stage of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC). His remarks came just one week after the deadly school shooting in Florida that has sparked renewed calls for more stringent federal gun laws, and increased scrutiny on the NRA.

But while LaPierre had plenty to say about protecting the Second Amendment and keeping schools armed to prevent further violence, he spent roughly as much time questioning the leadership of the FBI, vaguely lamenting a loss of "due process" in America, criticizing teaching in schools and perceived chill of free speech on college campuses, and generally decrying the "growing socialist state." LaPierre made it clear that the NRA is expanding its role beyond Second Amendment issues.

"We share a goal of safe schools, safe neighborhoods and a safe country," LaPierre said. "As usual the opportunist wasted not one second to exploit tragedy for political gain. Saul Alinsky would have been proud. The break back speed of calls for more gun control laws and the breathless national media eager to smear the NRA."

In the wake of the Parkland, Florida, school shooting, LaPierre criticized the failure of the FBI to follow up on a tip about the suspect, media coverage of shootings, and liberal critics who think gun control is the answer.

"They don't care if their laws work or not," LaPierre said of critics. "They just want to get more laws to get more control over people. But the NRA, the NRA does care," LaPierre said on stage.

LaPierre, calling schools "gun-free zones" that are easy targets for shooters, echoed what President Trump suggested the day before — that schools be better armed and protected. LaPierre reiterated that there should be armed security in every school, questioning if Americans love their jewelry and money, in stores and banks with security guards, more than children.

"Evil walks among us, and God help us if we don't harden our schools and protect our kids," LaPierre said.

LaPierre said criminals should not have access to a gun, and someone who shows warning signs of mental disturbance should show up in background checks. But LaPierre did not only stick to gun rights issues, launching into a tirade against the "rogue leadership" in the FBI, echoing frustrating with the FBI Mr. Trump and others have consistently criticized.

"What is hard to understand is why no one at the FBI stood up and called B.S. on its rogue leadership," LaPierre said. "Still, too much of today's Washington, no one speaks out. No one challenges authority."

But LaPierre's comments weren't necessarily the most fiery from the NRA at CPAC Thursday. Before LaPierre took the stage, NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch said some in the media "love mass shootings."

"Many in legacy media love mass shootings," Loesch said on stage "Now I'm not saying that you love the tragedy. But I am saying that you love the ratings. Crying white mothers are ratings gold..."

Loesch, who launched into an angry tirade against the media, also said Democratic lawmakers, in addition to the media, are taking advantage of the shooting.

"They're exploiting a tragedy for an agenda. Shame on you. We call B.S.," she said.

As students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland demand action from lawmakers, the White House has signaled its openness to addressing fixes to current gun legislation like a ban on so called "bump stock" devices that make semi-automatic weapons operate similar to automatic ones and raising the legal minimum age to purchase a gun. President Trump on Wednesday floated the idea of increasing the minimum age for buying guns, which the NRA promptly shot down.

Shortly before LaPierre was slated to speak at CPAC, Mr. Trump tweeted his support for LaPierre and the NRA generally.

What many people don’t understand, or don’t want to understand, is that Wayne, Chris and the folks who work so hard at the @NRA are Great People and Great American Patriots. They love our Country and will do the right thing. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 22, 2018
In the wake of the mass shooting in Las Vegas last year, LaPierre faulted the Obama-era ATF for failing to "do their job" while speaking to CBS' "Face the Nation."

"On bump stocks, let me say this, the fact is that the Obama administration a couple years ago legalized a device, their ATF, that fuzzed the line between semi-automatics and fully automatics. And if we're able to fuzz that line, all semi-automatics are at risk," said LaPierre.

He added, "If you fuzz the line, they're all at risk. And we're not going to let that happen."

While the White House continues to host listening sessions with communities affected by shootings, the NRA says it stands by its opposition to a ban of semi-automatic firearms and accessories and has since announced its opposition to the White House's age-limit proposal, saying in either case, the measures do not "prevent criminal activity and simply punishes the law-abiding for the criminal acts of others."

"The NRA supports efforts to prevent those who are in danger to themselves or others from getting access to firearms. At the same time, we will continue to oppose gun control measures that only serve to punish law-abiding citizens, these are not mutually exclusive or unachievable goals," the organization said in a statement on Wednesday.

One way to hit back at the NRA is for someone to successfully take out a few of them at their convention, where I'm sure many people are armed.

I mean you'd be on a suicide mission, but it would prove a point. Not that I would ever want that to happen. Just spitballing over here...

It has become perfectly clear that the NRA does not advocate for gun owners. It advocates for gun manufacturers.

Yeah taking out LaPierre as the face of guns seems like it would be a positive, now it would be murder and I’m not advocating for murder but crazy person, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find an appropriate target.

BillBrasky said:

One way to hit back at the NRA is for someone to successfully take out a few of them at their convention, where I'm sure many people are armed.

I mean you'd be on a suicide mission, but it would prove a point. Not that I would ever want that to happen. Just spitballing over here...

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That's not a position I would suggest or advocate for. They say there are no bad ideas, but man...

Newenglanddeac said:

Fuck these guys. I'll see you at the voting booth.

NRA's Wayne LaPierre makes it clear he isn't backing down on guns — or the culture wars
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But LaPierre's comments weren't necessarily the most fiery from the NRA at CPAC Thursday. Before LaPierre took the stage, NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch said some in the media "love mass shootings."

"Many in legacy media love mass shootings," Loesch said on stage "Now I'm not saying that you love the tragedy. But I am saying that you love the ratings. Crying white mothers are ratings gold..."

Loesch, who launched into an angry tirade against the media, also said Democratic lawmakers, in addition to the media, are taking advantage of the shooting.

"They're exploiting a tragedy for an agenda. Shame on you. We call B.S.," she said.

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Holy hell, what a fucking POS.

At this point, I do want to come for their weapons. All of their weapons. And hopefully pry them from their cold, dead hands. Sick fucking terrorists.

She is the perfect pig for the blood-loving NRA. More dead=more profits.

Anyone who thinks the NRA is about 2nd Amendment is delusional. They are about one thing - profits for their corporate whores.