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The Insane Cost of Attending Wake Forest

It is more competitive to get admitted now than when we attended.

Wake is no longer a regional school. Hell, when my son graduated from MSD just three years ago very few of his classmates were in state admissions.

Now whether that's a good thing or not is up for debate since we all know it's not the same Wake that we all knew.
 
Probably 80 to 90 percent of all colleges in the US are harder to get into now than they were 20 years ago, just as they were harder to get into 20 years ago than they were 40 years ago. There are vastly more people applying to college nowadays than back then, and the number of available slots has not increased proportionally.
 
Which is a market based explanation for tuition increases although that’s only one of many factors.
 
Ph isn’t going to sit around and post for free.

Bro, he is literally DOING sociology right now. I guarantee his next book is going to be about internet cultures. With a chapter about us.

*I don't actually guarantee this.
 
Probably 80 to 90 percent of all colleges in the US are harder to get into now than they were 20 years ago, just as they were harder to get into 20 years ago than they were 40 years ago. There are vastly more people applying to college nowadays than back then, and the number of available slots has not increased proportionally.

I would strongly disagree with your last statement. There are a lot more college admission slots now than there used to be. Most of them are in schools you never heard of before. Example: Wilmington University. Founded 1968 in New Castle County in 1968. Initial enrollment of 600 students. Became a university in 2007. Current enrollment over 10, 000. Tuition for full time students is $10k. An amusing note, the name of the founder is Donald Ross.

Look at the Florida "directional " schools and the massive expansion of student populations in those schools. UCF has over 66,000 students. 40,000 of those slots have been added since 1992. It opened in 1968 as Florida Technical Institute, with a student pop of less than 2,000. It became UCF in 1978.

Just look down the road at Charlotte. It claims history back to a 2 year school founded in 1946, but its student body increased by 1/3 in the last 10 years, to nearly 29,000. It is the fastest growing university in the North Carolina system.
There may be relatively more limited opportunities in the older, more traditional schools, but there are plenty of opportunities in newer schools.
 
I would strongly disagree with your last statement. There are a lot more college admission slots now than there used to be. Most of them are in schools you never heard of before. Example: Wilmington University. Founded 1968 in New Castle County in 1968. Initial enrollment of 600 students. Became a university in 2007. Current enrollment over 10, 000. Tuition for full time students is $10k. An amusing note, the name of the founder is Donald Ross.

Look at the Florida "directional " schools and the massive expansion of student populations in those schools. UCF has over 66,000 students. 40,000 of those slots have been added since 1992. It opened in 1968 as Florida Technical Institute, with a student pop of less than 2,000. It became UCF in 1978.

Just look down the road at Charlotte. It claims history back to a 2 year school founded in 1946, but its student body increased by 1/3 in the last 10 years, to nearly 29,000. It is the fastest growing university in the North Carolina system.
There may be relatively more limited opportunities in the older, more traditional schools, but there are plenty of opportunities in newer schools.

Good post. No doubt there are many new schools and growth at others, but I still don't think it's truly proportionate to the growth in overall population and kids eligible for four-year colleges (and who feel they have to get a four-year degree to be employable). There are a hell of a lot people in the US and more coming all the time.
 
Change inspectah's statement: the number of available slots at top-ranking universities has not increased proportionally

It's not harder to get into a college, but it's harder to get into a USNews top 50 university
 
Good posts, but we can't ignore that the need for a college degree has increase as well, so the market for a degree has expanded significantly.
 
Change inspectah's statement: the number of available slots at top-ranking universities has not increased proportionally

It's not harder to get into a college, but it's harder to get into a USNews top 50 university

Exactly. Historically top 50 schools have become more selective and harder to get into, because the number of student slots has grown slowly and not in proportion to the population increase. Tier II, III and IV schools have seen massive increases in enrollment and are doing a decent job of filling the need for higher education.

In addition to the newer four year schools expanding rapidly, some big state institutions are farming out the first two years to Juco/community colleges in their state by guaranteeing admission to a four year school as a junior if the student completes the AA at the community college. This practice effectively increases the throughput of "four year" colleges by skewing their population to more juniors and seniors.

Wake has gone the other way on this issue, by limiting the credits they accept from junior colleges.
 
What’s the job realm where a college degree is needed and you are getting the job with a degree from college ranking 4,326?
 
What’s the job realm where a college degree is needed and you are getting the job with a degree from college ranking 4,326?

Pretty good. Many places simply want a degree from an accredited college and in a recognized program. To some extent it is about showing you CAN learn, not as much about what you did learn.

A degree is evidence you can and have learned sone parcels of knowledge. Therefore it is easier to make the case that you are capable of learning what you need to know to do the job I have.
 
Yeah. It certainly gives you a leg up on people without a bachelors degree which is still the vast majority of the workforce.
 
Yeah. It certainly gives you a leg up on people without a bachelors degree which is still the vast majority of the workforce.

Yes. Big difference between "I graduated from oompah loompah High School" and "I have a degree from Ginormous Directional State University."
 
Nah, about half of the workforce has a bachelors degree and 75% if the jobs don’t require one.
 
Nah, about half of the workforce has a bachelors degree and 75% if the jobs don’t require one.

About half the workforce has a college degree. That includes associates degrees.
 
100 Top Colleges Vow To Enroll More Low-Income Students

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College access and affordability: It's a common topic in higher education — because college is the one place that can really be a catapult when it comes to moving up the economic ladder.

And yet, research has shown that just 3 percent of high-achieving, low-income students attend America's most selective colleges. And, it's not that these students just aren't there — every year tens of thousands of top students who don't come from wealthy families never even apply to elite colleges.

Universities are taking note — and banding together under something called the American Talent Initiative — a network backed by Bloomberg Philanthropies, the Aspen Institute and the research firm Ithaka S+R.

To join the club, schools have to graduate 70 percent of their students in six years — a qualification that leaves just under 300 schools in the U.S. eligible. Nearly a third of those schools — exactly 100 — have signed on.

Their goal? Enroll 50,000 additional low- and moderate-income students by 2025....
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Who We Are: The American Talent Initiative (ATI)...


Included on the list...
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