If he has visited Ohio St, Ville, & UVA is it assumed they all have offered him a spot? Do coaches bring in grad transfers to visit and then turn around & decide the kid isn't a good fit?
Wow. That would shock me. Not because of the ACC connection, but you don't play for Bennett unless you are 100% focused on defense at all times. Not exactly a Keyshawn strength. Would be a fascinating case-study, because if Key thrives and plays good defense under Bennett, that forever any eliminates any argument that personnel was the primary issue for WF's recent defensive struggles. Can't see Key playing for UVA (even though UVA could use his offense).
This apparently wasn't his motivation at the time of his first transfer.I don't get the sense that Key is angry with Wake or Manning. He got plenty of PT, I think he just wanted to be on a winning team.
I think not starting had to play a big role in his frustration at Wake. Its one thing to not start on a top 25 team that makes a deep run in the tournament. Its another to not start when you are 11-20 and struggle to win close games. Combine that with getting disciplined for one game, and the dad/Manning issue and it is not a shock that he chose to move on for his final year. If he transfers in conference I will root for him to flop big time, but if he transfers out of conference I will probably root for him a bit. I can't bring myself to rooting for a former Wake guy who is playing in our conference. That might be shallow, but that is just my visceral reaction.
It's very shallow. KW represented Wake and himself well. I'll be rooting for him regardless of where he ends up transferring.
Bullshit. Such a LOWF attitude. You think UNC fans would politely cheer for a kid who transferred to Duke? This kind of thinking is where you end up when someone like redacted murders your program I guess.
It's very shallow. KW represented Wake and himself well. I'll be rooting for him regardless of where he ends up transferring.
I used to have you on ignore...now I remember why I did.
Using UNC fans as a benchmark on how to treat former players is a poor idea, and we don't really have a rival school no matter how much we'd like to pretend we do so it's kind of a moot point regarding where KW transfers to. And despite the fact that you pump more sunshine into your posts than most, (except for maybe Charlotte and RChil) you calling treating a former player with respect LOWF is pretty funny. This coming from the guy that has been pro-Bzzz and pro-Manning because of the 'progress' they've shown over their tenure.
And one more huge distinction to make is the difference between criticizing players and coaches. The coaches, AD, BOT, etc...get paid a lot of money to make important decisions. My desire to support a former player who is leaving with his reputation intact has nothing to do with the ill will I hold against those at the top that have, how'd you put it...murdered our program.
Anyway, carry on.
You're calling Wrangor "very shallow" for holding a grudge against a player who leaves Wake for a rival. You want to cheer for UVA or UNC or whatever, by all means, go ahead. Ignore the UNC part, pick Duke or UVA or any other dedicated fanbase of a successful program.
To be clear - we've sucked for a while, if fans bolt that's understandable. But this crap where you trash Wake fans for showing some remnant of what it was like when Wake was good - hating a rival team for example, is garbage behavior. We could use a lot more "very shallow" fans like Wrangor.
Being overly-optimistic on these boards is a sin 100 times worse than being overly-negative.
I don't view Woods as a typical transfer
He's been at WF for 3 years; he's graduating and he has options
I think not starting had to play a big role in his frustration at Wake. Its one thing to not start on a top 25 team that makes a deep run in the tournament. Its another to not start when you are 11-20 and struggle to win close games. Combine that with getting disciplined for one game, and the dad/Manning issue and it is not a shock that he chose to move on for his final year. If he transfers in conference I will root for him to flop big time, but if he transfers out of conference I will probably root for him a bit. I can't bring myself to rooting for a former Wake guy who is playing in our conference. That might be shallow, but that is just my visceral reaction.
Calling someone "very shallow" is pretty derogatory. You then backed it up with an attack on me, so you seem to be fine directing your vitriol toward Wake fans.
Bottom line is if a Wake fan says "I'm not going to root for a player who leaves Wake for a program in our own conference" and your response is to call them "very shallow" and now "classless" - then it's a garbage statement.
Just a reminder - nobody called you anything for supporting him. Nobody even said you shouldn't support him. This is simply you telling other fans how to act.
Calm down...nobody's attacking you. You said I was being LOWF for supporting a transferring player after Wrangor said ..."If he transfers in conference I will root for him to flop big time." You were pro-Bzzz and you've been pro-Manning because we've shown 'progress'. I think that is more of a LOWF mentality than supporting a transferring player who wants to move on to a better program/overall situation to show off his talents before his time runs out.
It's not like anyone is going to be hoping he drops 30 on us if we play him again, but he's always going to be a member of the WF community so he deserves some respect. Hoping he 'flops big time' is a bullshit comment. Feel free to support it if you'd like to...I don't. Go Deacs