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Former WF Hoops Asst Coach Jamil Jones gets probation for 3rd degree assault (update)

thatguy2016 said:
ITC taking this thread full circle, back to a one-punch kill
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NEVER FORGET.


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TheTwinAndreBen said:
What an awful article. It has a paragraph at the end that is a non-sequitur clearly meant to be somewhere else in the piece, and there are quotes attributable to "Ryan" who is never identified.

Journalism really is dead.
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The N&O is complete garbage. But I thought I would still pass it along.
 
TheTwinAndreBen said:
What an awful article. It has a paragraph at the end that is a non-sequitur clearly meant to be somewhere else in the piece, and there are quotes attributable to "Ryan" who is never identified.

Journalism really is dead.
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What? I just read this and didn’t see anything like this
 
The last paragraph of the piece is:

"Kent arrived in New York on a Monday morning. When she left the airport she traveled first to 41-10 29th St. in Long Island City, where paramedics found Szabo after he’d been punched. She needed to see where her son had last been conscious – where, in her mind, he’d been murdered."

This clearly goes up earlier in the piece where there is a similar paragraph about the mother traveling, but the author just leaves it at the end, where it makes no sense.


Also, there are these quotes:

In a brief phone interview , Ryan said he had the “utmost sympathy” for Szabo’s family.

“These are difficult cases,” Ryan said. “Our colleagues in Manhattan recently went to trial in the last two months in a one-punch case, and the jury acquitted ...

who TF is Ryan? Someone from the DA's office? That person is never identified. There is mention of a 27 year old Ryan who also died in a one punch incident...it probably isnt him.

Just garbage work.
 
Given the apparent circumstances, seemed like a felony conviction was unlikely.

Seems like the deceased family will seek justice via civil action.
 
TheTwinAndreBen said:
The last paragraph of the piece is:

"Kent arrived in New York on a Monday morning. When she left the airport she traveled first to 41-10 29th St. in Long Island City, where paramedics found Szabo after he’d been punched. She needed to see where her son had last been conscious – where, in her mind, he’d been murdered."

This clearly goes up earlier in the piece where there is a similar paragraph about the mother traveling, but the author just leaves it at the end, where it makes no sense.


Also, there are these quotes:

In a brief phone interview , Ryan said he had the “utmost sympathy” for Szabo’s family.

“These are difficult cases,” Ryan said. “Our colleagues in Manhattan recently went to trial in the last two months in a one-punch case, and the jury acquitted ...

who TF is Ryan? Someone from the DA's office? That person is never identified. There is mention of a 27 year old Ryan who also died in a one punch incident...it probably isnt him.

Just garbage work.
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more likely bad editing. time is often of the essence and, thus, with limited resources things can go to hell in a handbasket.
 
There was supposed to be a dumb framing device about the mother gathering the courage to visit the location of the incident. That's what that's doing. It was deliberate. Just poorly written.

Not reading it again to see who "Ryan" is though
 
TheTwinAndreBen said:
What an awful article. It has a paragraph at the end that is a non-sequitur clearly meant to be somewhere else in the piece, and there are quotes attributable to "Ryan" who is never identified.

Journalism really is dead.
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It really is. It does a great job of explaining what the victim’s mom thinks the law should be but it never mentions what the law actually is.
 
"THE POSTER IS THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY!" (Formerly the Jamil Jones thread)

Wasn’t part of the point that the actual law is murky although definitely not what the mom wants it to be?

Seems like that dude was as likely to be the hitter as the hittee in life and in that specific situation.
 
TheTwinAndreBen said:
What an awful article. It has a paragraph at the end that is a non-sequitur clearly meant to be somewhere else in the piece, and there are quotes attributable to "Ryan" who is never identified.

Journalism really is dead.
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Andrew Carter didn't appreciate your tweet to him btw.

FWIW and as others have noted, I think the last paragraph was placed as intended - a dramatic close for entry into Best American Sports Writing 2019. Basically bringing the story full circle. They did edit the article on-line, after the fact it appears, to identify Ryan as Jack Ryan, the DA but they placed this AFTER their initial use of just "Ryan".

How is the egg nog?
 
Dillon Fence said:
Andrew Carter didn't appreciate your tweet to him btw.

FWIW and as others have noted, I think the last paragraph was placed as intended - a dramatic close for entry into Best American Sports Writing 2019. Basically bringing the story full circle. They did edit the article on-line, after the fact it appears, to identify Ryan as Jack Ryan, the DA but they placed this AFTER their initial use of just "Ryan".

How is the egg nog?
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Yep. Andrew Carter got all snippy on Twitter before proofreading his amateurish article again.
 
No new information about the incident in that article. The very sympathetic case of a man breaking up a fight and getting killed that spurred the NY bill is not applicable in this case at all.
Her being obsessed isn't bringing her son back. If it goes to trial, the NY Post articles have said there are witnesses, and it would come down to what they say.
 
TheTwinAndreBen said:
The last paragraph of the piece is:

"Kent arrived in New York on a Monday morning. When she left the airport she traveled first to 41-10 29th St. in Long Island City, where paramedics found Szabo after he’d been punched. She needed to see where her son had last been conscious – where, in her mind, he’d been murdered."

This clearly goes up earlier in the piece where there is a similar paragraph about the mother traveling, but the author just leaves it at the end, where it makes no sense.


Also, there are these quotes:

In a brief phone interview , Ryan said he had the “utmost sympathy” for Szabo’s family.

“These are difficult cases,” Ryan said. “Our colleagues in Manhattan recently went to trial in the last two months in a one-punch case, and the jury acquitted ...

who TF is Ryan? Someone from the DA's office? That person is never identified. There is mention of a 27 year old Ryan who also died in a one punch incident...it probably isnt him.

Just garbage work.
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Bad editing surely. After the "utmost sympathy" line, the very next line reads,
“These are difficult cases,” said the executive assistant district attorney, Jack Ryan. “
But we now have info we didn't have. A terrible loss for a family but certainly not any intent.
 
Dillon Fence said:
Andrew Carter didn't appreciate your tweet to him btw.

FWIW and as others have noted, I think the last paragraph was placed as intended - a dramatic close for entry into Best American Sports Writing 2019. Basically bringing the story full circle. They did edit the article on-line, after the fact it appears, to identify Ryan as Jack Ryan, the DA but they placed this AFTER their initial use of just "Ryan".

How is the egg nog?
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He's only human after all. Don't put the blame on him.
 
President to DA is a pretty significant demotion. Probably still a good analyst though
 
sportsmed86 said:
Bad editing surely. After the "utmost sympathy" line, the very next line reads,
“These are difficult cases,” said the executive assistant district attorney, Jack Ryan. “
But we now have info we didn't have. A terrible loss for a family but certainly not any intent.
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They updated the story after the omission was pointed out.
 
I'm sure the reporter feels like he did a lot of work on this article but all he really did is get co-opted by this guy's mom who's probably been bugging him for months.
 
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