Horse Shit
Down Goes Silent Sam
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I promote a public flogging for the pukes
WFFaithful
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Wakeforest22890
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Ole Lec definitely advocates the South re-attempting to overthrow the government. He too is a traitor.
myDeaconmyhand
First man to get a team of horses up Bear Mountain
You're an idiot. There's not even an official legal process for secession - it's completely theoretical. No foreign government ever formally recognized the Confederacy.
myDeaconmyhand
First man to get a team of horses up Bear Mountain
Well, i'm confident that educated military leaders like Robert E. Lee were well aware that joining the confederacy was a legal act of treason, but his soldiers probably weren't.
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I’m not talking about “campus life.” I know that’s a trivial term for liberal college students. And “ordinary Americans” include the many many people who attend and have attended colleges and universities. An estimated 19.9 million students are enrolling this Fall.
https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372
Do you even know the first damn thing about Robert E. Lee an his family beyond he was a Confederate general and they owned slaves ? Like, the Revolutionary War might not have gone so well without Lee's father ?
My point, poorly made I admit, is that telling the uneducated that they're uneducated and have nothing to add will only make them dig in their heels more deeply on keeping the statues.
They don’t know squat about Lighthorse Harry Lee..
Let me tell you something — the street-wise brawler Sam Adams barred the door at Lee’s command..and Harry told the feckless from among that they’d either sign the document or be sequestered indefinitely.
Deacfreak07
Ain't played nobody, PAWL!
If it’s about “heritage not hate”, why are all the statues preserving our history of that time period of white people?
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myDeaconmyhand
First man to get a team of horses up Bear Mountain
What? I was just referring to his education. I'm fairly familiar with him. The last gift I ever gave my grandfather was a signed book about Lighthorse Harry Lee.
Wakeforest22890
Snowpom
What does any of this have to do with confederate statues in 2018?
Deacfreak07
Ain't played nobody, PAWL!
Apparently horse shit.
2&2 Slider To Leyritz
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But the motive behind the statue doesn't make the statue racist on its own. If I dance around a KKK hood and put an apple in the street, I may be a racist but it doesn't make the apple in the street a racist symbol.
This is/was the plaque on Silent Sam:
How is that any different than pretty much any plaque on any other memorial to soldiers? You could unbolt it from Silent Sam and bolt it to a Civil War statue at the University of Vermont and it would mean the exact same thing. Would it be racist there? If you changed the years and put it on a Vietnam Memorial, would it be racist there?
sailordeac
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Traveller would be proud.
Deacfreak07
Ain't played nobody, PAWL!
But the motive behind the statue doesn't make the statue racist on its own. If I dance around a KKK hood and put an apple in the street, I may be a racist but it doesn't make the apple in the street a racist symbol.
This is/was the plaque on Silent Sam:
How is that any different than pretty much any plaque on any other memorial to soldiers? You could unbolt it from Silent Sam and bolt it to a Civil War statue at the University of Vermont and it would mean the exact same thing. Would it be racist there? If you changed the years and put it on a Vietnam Memorial, would it be racist there?
The plaque omits the word “against” their country if it’s really about historical accuracy.
Deacon923
Scooter Banks
But the motive behind the statue doesn't make the statue racist on its own. If I dance around a KKK hood and put an apple in the street, I may be a racist but it doesn't make the apple in the street a racist symbol.
This is/was the plaque on Silent Sam:
How is that any different than pretty much any plaque on any other memorial to soldiers? You could unbolt it from Silent Sam and bolt it to a Civil War statue at the University of Vermont and it would mean the exact same thing. Would it be racist there? If you changed the years and put it on a Vietnam Memorial, would it be racist there?
Think about it this way. If you were the grandson of a Holocaust survivor living in Germany, how would you feel if you had to walk to school every day past a statue of a Hitler Youth with that plaque? Does generic wording somehow sanitize the message of that statue?
Note: Germany has no such statues, because they understand that the attempt to build a society on the dehumanization of an entire race of people is something to be ashamed of, not glorified.
Well, Georgetown, SC is working on a Harriet Tubman statue right now.
Savannah has a slave statue.
Charleston has a statue of a freed slave who planned a slave rebellion (you can guess how that turned out for him).
There is a statue of Booker T. Washington at Tuskeegee U and at his eponymous high school in Atlanta lifting the veil of ignorance from a slave.
I'm sure you realize the disingenuous of your question though. You may have also noticed the many statues of civil rights leaders around the South and the nation as a whole.