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    Besides the fact that Doncic was the most NBA ready player in the draft, if college coaches can figure out how to derail Trae Young, NBA staffs certainly can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vadimivich View Post
    Or you know, they could have drafted the franchise changing talent available to them right then.

    The Suns and Kings passing on Doncic was awful. The Hawks passing on him was borderline criminal.
    meh, the Suns taking Ayton wasn't that awful

    small sample size and all, but dude is putting up 16/10/3 on 60% shooting and 75% from the line at 20 years old

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    It made sense for them as they had a bunch of wings...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuiceCrewAllStar View Post
    meh, the Suns taking Ayton wasn't that awful
    Doncic is going to go straight to the Hall of Fame. You confident that Ayton will?

    Doncic was as proven as any player who has ever entered the NBA at his age. He was literally can't miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vadimivich View Post
    Doncic is going to go straight to the Hall of Fame. You confident that Ayton will?

    Doncic was as proven as any player who has ever entered the NBA at his age. He was literally can't miss.
    LeBron James says hello.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RChildress107 View Post
    LeBron James says hello.
    LeBron had blindingly undeniable talent, but he wasn't all that proven. He was wrecking high schoolers.

    Doncic was dominating the second best professional basketball league in the world.

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    Vad loves himself some Europe
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    Quote Originally Posted by vadimivich View Post
    LeBron had blindingly undeniable talent, but he wasn't all that proven. He was wrecking high schoolers.

    Doncic was dominating the second best professional basketball league in the world.
    LeBron was about as “can’t miss” as you can get. Shaq and Duncan are the only other guys in the past 30 years that you could pencil in as all-time greats before they entered the league.

    I don’t think Doncic is at that level.

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    I mean, I put it out there earlier before the draft. Doncic is a generational talent. He's going to be possibly the best European player ever (if Giannis does not lock that crown down forever) and barring an injury or some crazy meltdown, is going into the Hall of Fame.

    It's mind boggling that anyone watched him play in the league he was in (or internationally for his national team) and though "nah, give me some Marvin Bagley / Trae Young".

    If he had played college basketball he'd have been the #1 overall pick by an outrageous margin. But dumb NBA teams gonna dumb.

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    no such thing as a rookie surefire HOFer

    but totally agree on taking Young plus the pick instead of him -- that was really dumb

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    Quote Originally Posted by vadimivich View Post
    Or you know, they could have drafted the franchise changing talent available to them right then.

    The Suns and Kings passing on Doncic was awful. The Hawks passing on him was borderline criminal.
    Oh I’m not defending them. Go back and look at my posts. I was bullish on the Hawks taking Luka since before the lottery. I was crushed when they traded him for a chance that Young would be a poor man’s Steph. I thought Collins and Luka could be the core of a playoff contender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuiceCrewAllStar View Post
    no such thing as a rookie surefire HOFer

    but totally agree on taking Young plus the pick instead of him -- that was really dumb
    It's not just 20 games or whatever though. He was already the EuroLeague MVP and in national team play won the EuroBasket tournament against Spain, Serbia, etc.

    There's a huge track record that he's an absolute star. What he's doing in the NBA is totally in line with what he's already done.

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    I'm just saying stuff happens, man

    Injuries, players plateau, he could be stuck with bad teammates his whole career, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vadimivich View Post
    It's not just 20 games or whatever though. He was already the EuroLeague MVP and in national team play won the EuroBasket tournament against Spain, Serbia, etc.

    There's a huge track record that he's an absolute star. What he's doing in the NBA is totally in line with what he's already done.
    Bro has a 16 PER on 47%/38% shooting and averaging 4 assists per game. Lets have him be better than Eric Bledsoe first before we pencil him into the HOF.
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    Every time I see the Hawks play, the trade looks worse. Unless he improves dramatically, Young looks more and more like a starter for a bad team/back-up on a good team.

    And every time I see Mikal Bridges, I am more pissed about the trade unless the Heat pick is Top 7.

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    At least Miles Bridges is good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vadimivich View Post
    It's not just 20 games or whatever though. He was already the EuroLeague MVP and in national team play won the EuroBasket tournament against Spain, Serbia, etc.

    There's a huge track record that he's an absolute star. What he's doing in the NBA is totally in line with what he's already done.
    I like Doncic and wish the Hawks would have taken him, but let's not act like being Euroleague MVP means you are going to be an NBA star. The last five years of Euroleague MVPs before Doncic are Sergio Llull, Nando de Colo, Nemanja Bjelica, Sergio Rodriguez, and Vassilis Spanoulis.

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    Collins doing right well in his first 2 games back.
    12 points in 12 minutes.
    Tonight 18 points in 20 minutes and 6 assists.

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    6 assists? Wow.

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    Kings have their first good year in 10, and apparently there is friction between the coach and GM over the coach not playing Bagley enough
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