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Huge fire in Malibu

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https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2018/11/09/woolsey-fire-75k-homes-evacuated/

It jumped the 101 and went down the hills to PCH.

Lots of multi-multi million dollar homes in the direct path of this fire.

Saw a VW engulfed in fire and explode.

This could be really bad. Besides the homes, there is a lot of brush and trees to catch on fire and ruin some cool countryside.

Haven't heard anything about Pepperdine yet.
 
Weird thing is now there's one lone fire that's like 5-10 miles from the other ones that's crossed the PCH, the rest are all in the valley. Did it get that way now because it made its way all the way down 10 miles, or did is spark separately from the wind. These are 5 million dollar homes going up. And the Bachelor House got damaged!
 
Caitlyn Jenner's house burned. Luckily, no one was injured.

The "bachelor house" is about all you can get for $5M that's not an apartment in Malibu.

It's up by Zuma. There used to be a great bar there. Then, the evil empire of Starbuck's bought the building.
 
palmab03 said:
Weird thing is now there's one lone fire that's like 5-10 miles from the other ones that's crossed the PCH, the rest are all in the valley. Did it get that way now because it made its way all the way down 10 miles, or did is spark separately from the wind. These are 5 million dollar homes going up. And the Bachelor House got damaged!
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Most likely flying embers. During a big fire, they can be carried miles.
 
Trump empathetic as usual on twitter
 
 
Makes me think of Psalm 23:4.
 
bmoneydeac said:
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He's so out of tune with the US Forest Service. Our government's policy towards wild fires is what is helping contribute to the destruction.

Since 1918, there's been a huge debate within the fire service of whether or not we should actually fight these fires. Forest fires are a natural occurence, and are healthy for the life of forests. Truthfully, it's best to evacuate everyone and let it burn itself out. We then go in and rebuild. As we continue to fight these fires, undergrowth and kindling build up creating larger and more destructive fires.
 
G-d gave Noah the rainbow sign

No more water but fire next time
 
25 dead.
 
tsywake said:
He's so out of tune with the US Forest Service. Our government's policy towards wild fires is what is helping contribute to the destruction.

Since 1918, there's been a huge debate within the fire service of whether or not we should actually fight these fires. Forest fires are a natural occurence, and are healthy for the life of forests. Truthfully, it's best to evacuate everyone and let it burn itself out. We then go in and rebuild. As we continue to fight these fires, undergrowth and kindling build up creating larger and more destructive fires.
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Shouldn't they be doing controlled burns though, which they don't do in California? Controlled burns would remove undergrowth (fuel for the fire) and limit the size of any wild fires that do catch. He may not be that far off base, as annoying it is to admit...
 
nobody is going to take the opinion of a drummer seriously
 
DrummerDeac said:
Shouldn't they be doing controlled burns though, which they don't do in California? Controlled burns would remove undergrowth (fuel for the fire) and limit the size of any wild fires that do catch. He may not be that far off base, as annoying it is to admit...
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While in theory, yes; but the Federal Government owns over 45 million acres of land in California. The time and cost to try and administer controlled burns over that much land would actually be higher than the costs to fight the fires.

The thought process behind letting the fires burn themselves out is that as the fires become more frequent, they'll be smaller and less destructive. Prior to the early 1900s, that was the stance of the National Forest Service, but powerfully lobbying by the logging industry at that time led to a philosophical switch, creating the first forest firefighting units.
 
tsywake said:
While in theory, yes; but the Federal Government owns over 45 million acres of land in California. The time and cost to try and administer controlled burns over that much land would actually be higher than the costs to fight the fires.

The thought process behind letting the fires burn themselves out is that as the fires become more frequent, they'll be smaller and less destructive. Prior to the early 1900s, that was the stance of the National Forest Service, but powerfully lobbying by the logging industry at that time led to a philosophical switch, creating the first forest firefighting units.
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How far in can a fire go in a pure suburban neighborhood without many trees? Are the fires usually just going to get the one row of houses closest to the wooded/brush areas and then not make it much further, or can the fire just go from house to house and keep going forever?
 
DrummerDeac said:
Shouldn't they be doing controlled burns though, which they don't do in California? Controlled burns would remove undergrowth (fuel for the fire) and limit the size of any wild fires that do catch. He may not be that far off base, as annoying it is to admit...
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There fires happened so quickly that would have been impossible. The entire town of Paradise was destroyed within a very short time. In fact, the residents only had a five minute notice.

The SoCal part of the fires had the ultimate control path - the 101 freeway. The fires simply jumped the freeway.

Also, the fires started several hundred miles apart. You'd basically need a standing army of firefighters. Add to that in SoCal, there were huge, dry winds.

With all the experience and funding CA has had over the decades, Trump's statements are totally full of shit
 
RJKarl said:
There fires happened so quickly that would have been impossible. The entire town of Paradise was destroyed within a very short time.
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I thought Paradise was a city, not a town.
 
qcdeac said:
I thought Paradise was a city, not a town.
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Well, every group of people in CA can call themselves a "city". I wouldn't consider an area that has about 25,000 people a "city".
 
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