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2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

PhDeac said:
Who are the other candidates that are for ending the filibuster, changing the composition of the Supreme Court, getting rid of the Electoral College, and openly speaking up against seeking bipartisan compromise?

The rest of the Dems except maybe Warren believe getting elected will fix everything.
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Can't wait to bipartisan compromise our way to climate disaster, ecofascism, and free market healthcare. Pete's SC plan is a joke.
 
Read this am that Governor Abrams killed it last night on Rachel Maddow's show.

She's a winner and a rising star in the Dem party.
 
PhDeac said:
Who are the other candidates that are for ending the filibuster, changing the composition of the Supreme Court, getting rid of the Electoral College, and openly speaking up against seeking bipartisan compromise?
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fwiw bernie has said he'd end the filibuster, do some weird rotation thing on scotus, is wishy-washy on abolishing the electoral college, and hates being bipartisan and warren is for most of those things too
 
It's nice to talk about ending the electoral college, but the reality is barring a new constitution, it will never pass in the states.
 
This is a radical position but I think it's good to have candidates acknowledge that the system sucks.

Also I seem to recall a mechanism for changing the Constitution. We did it once when we thought alcohol was bad, that's the time I can remember anyway.
 
RJKarl said:
It's nice to talk about ending the electoral college, but the reality is barring a new constitution, it will never pass in the states.
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This is the kind ofattitude that will prevent it. The National Interstate Popular Vote Compact is making progress. Currently has 196 EVs, and their is legislation pending that would add 108, well over the 270 needed. Until the EC is abolished or the compact takes effect, the entire process is a complete sham and more people should be outraged by it.
 
TownieDeac said:
fwiw bernie has said he'd end the filibuster, do some weird rotation thing on scotus, is wishy-washy on abolishing the electoral college, and hates being bipartisan and warren is for most of those things too
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Last I saw Bernie wasn’t for ending the filibuster. Glad to see he changed.

I’m willingly to bet MHB has spent less than 10 minutes reading anything about Pete that wasn’t Bernie/DSA propaganda.
 
Shooshmoo said:
This is the kind ofattitude that will prevent it. The National Interstate Popular Vote Compact is making progress. Currently has 196 EVs, and their is legislation pending that would add 108, well over the 270 needed. Until the EC is abolished or the compact takes effect, the entire process is a complete sham and more people should be outraged by it.
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Being outraged is fine and logical, but you have to be realistic as well.
 
PhDeac said:
Last I saw Bernie wasn’t for ending the filibuster. Glad to see he changed.

I’m willingly to bet MHB has spent less than 10 minutes reading anything about Pete that wasn’t Bernie/DSA propaganda.
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FWIW I relate a lot to MHB and still really like Bernie a lot, but I get stuck in a rabbit hole sometimes of listening to Chapo and following Twitter accounts that rip on anyone not Bernie so hard it's tough to form an alternative opinion. I've got my qualms with Pete Butt but I do think structural change is necessary and I'm glad he's framing things that way. There's still plenty that concerns me about him, and I'd like for him to talk more about plans, but technocrat vibes turn people off too, so maybe his message will be ok, idk.
 
TownieDeac said:
FWIW I relate a lot to MHB and still really like Bernie a lot, but I get stuck in a rabbit hole sometimes of listening to Chapo and following Twitter accounts that rip on anyone not Bernie so hard it's tough to form an alternative opinion. I've got my qualms with Pete Butt but I do think structural change is necessary and I'm glad he's framing things that way. There's still plenty that concerns me about him, and I'd like for him to talk more about plans, but technocrat vibes turn people off too, so maybe his message will be ok, idk.
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Pete has been unveiling plans for the last two or three months. He just unveiled a rural broadband plan yesterday.
 
I suppose I meant at the debates, I'm not watching town halls or random campaign stops or whatever. Good for him for getting a platform together.

Kamala Harris killed me with her student debt plan. I still laugh about it every other day or so.
 
Did Harris unveil her student debt plan at the debates? I don’t remember.
 
PhDeac said:
Did Harris unveil her student debt plan at the debates? I don’t remember.
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haha no she tweeted it

here's pete taking on the bigger issues

 
As I've said over and over again, the DEMS should NOT nonimate anyone over 60 for POTUS in 2020
 
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