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2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

Monmouth contacted less than 300 people. It was the smallest poll in months.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
Top three dem candidates are 77, 76, and 70 years old.

That's not a good look.
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Ok Trump supporter, a man who was in his 70s when the Electoral College put him in the White House
 
AsesinoDeTortugas said:
Ok Trump supporter, a man who was in his 70s when the Electoral College put him in the White House
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But he ain't wrong. The 3 leaders are old, and the field overall is weak. Reminds me of the 2004 field. Ain't no Bubbas (in his prime) or Obamas in this field. If Obama were eligible and ran, he'd win north of 350 EVs and win by 10%.
 
cville deac said:
But he ain't wrong. The 3 leaders are old, and the field overall is weak. Reminds me of the 2004 field. Ain't no Bubbas (in his prime) or Obamas in this field. If Obama were eligible and ran, he'd win north of 350 EVs and win by 10%.
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Wrong, they're great candidates in the field. Pete and Harris are incredibly strong candidates both channeling the Obama vibes. The problem is the leftists and purity dems won't let anybody right of Mao have a fighting chance.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
Wrong, they're great candidates in the field. Pete and Harris are incredibly strong candidates both channeling the Obama vibes. The problem is the leftists and purity dems won't let anybody right of Mao have a fighting chance.
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Lol, you’ve really bought in to the “all democrats are socialist” thing.
 
cville deac said:
But he ain't wrong. The 3 leaders are old, and the field overall is weak. Reminds me of the 2004 field. Ain't no Bubbas (in his prime) or Obamas in this field. If Obama were eligible and ran, he'd win north of 350 EVs and win by 10%.
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As would Michelle Obama.

The best part of her running would have been watching Trump totally explode and implode over and over again. Losing to an Obama would be debilitating enough for him. When you add her being a female and a black female to boot, Trump might be seen running around the WH grounds naked and screaming.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
Wrong, they're great candidates in the field. Pete and Harris are incredibly strong candidates both channeling the Obama vibes. The problem is the leftists and purity dems won't let anybody right of Mao have a fighting chance.
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#RJ'shorseshoe
 
WFcatamount22 said:
Wrong, they're great candidates in the field. Pete and Harris are incredibly strong candidates both channeling the Obama vibes. The problem is the leftists and purity dems won't let anybody right of Mao have a fighting chance.
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The fact that the mayor of South Bend IN, who I'm going to vote for, is 1 of our top 5 candidates says something about this field. And I don't see how Harris is an incredibly strong candidate. She should be able to see what is happening to farmers in the midwest (she's spent enough time in IA), yet she's come out as anti free trade as Warren and Sanders. And she attacked Obama as a way of getting to Biden. You can attack Biden for a multitude of sins without attacking our guy who left office with something like a 57% approval rating. She and Sanders often sound like they're running against Obama as much as they are Trump. Warren has at least navigated the Obama waters way better than her. And how many different health care plans has she trotted out? I don't care for Warren, but I'd vote for her long before I'd vote for Harris. And when this all started earlier in the year, Harris was 1 of the candidates who I was interested in, along with Beto, Klobuchar, Inslee and Bullock (Hickenlooper too before he opened his mouth).
 
RJKarl said:
As would Michelle Obama.

The best part of her running would have been watching Trump totally explode and implode over and over again. Losing to an Obama would be debilitating enough for him. When you add her being a female and a black female to boot, Trump might be seen running around the WH grounds naked and screaming.
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True, and watching her wipe her ass with Trump would put a smile on most of our faces. But she has had ZERO interest in running for president and has been about as clear about that as William Sherman was.
 
Monmouth just issued a statement saying their poll was an "outlier".

"Monmouth Admits Poll Was an Outlier
August 28, 2019 at 11:47 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 3 Comments

Monmouth pollster Patrick Murray acknowledged that a poll released this week showing Joe Biden’s support dropping by 13 percent was an “outlier.”

Murray said the result was the “product of the uncertainty that is inherent in the polling process” which “occurs very infrequently.”

He added: “In the end, we must put out the numbers we have. They should always be viewed in the context of what other polls are saying, not only as it applies to the horse race, but also for our understanding of the issues that motivate voters in their decision-making process.”
 
TownieDeac said:
YouGov's was fairly similar.
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And the Harris, Politico, Emerson, Quinnipiac and USA Today polls from yesterday and today would suggest the Monmouth poll is in fact an outlier. And I'd add that, although the Quinnipiac Dem primary poll was quite similar to the other 4, the margins vis-a-vis Trump that all 5 top Dems had seems to have a pretty strong blue house effect. As a practical matter, the polls this far out don't mean a whole lot. Taken as a whole, what they've said over the last few months is there is a 1A category (Biden, Warren and Sanders) a 1B category (Harris, who lost the ground she initially gained, and Buttigieg), and everyone else should do something other than run for president.
 
cville deac said:
And the Harris, Politico, Emerson, Quinnipiac and USA Today polls from yesterday and today would suggest the Monmouth poll is in fact an outlier. And I'd add that, although the Quinnipiac Dem primary poll was quite similar to the other 4, the margins vis-a-vis Trump that all 5 top Dems had seems to have a pretty strong blue house effect. As a practical matter, the polls this far out don't mean a whole lot. Taken as a whole, what they've said over the last few months is there is a 1A category (Biden, Warren and Sanders) a 1B category (Harris, who lost the ground she initially gained, and Buttigieg), and everyone else should do something other than run for president.
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Yep, agreed. I'm mostly paying attention to state polls, but they're all fairly meaningless at this stage.
 
The Monmouth poll has a 5.7% margin of error. It shouldn’t even get published. That’s irrelevant.
 
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