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    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    Now is the time when cville starts listing states
    Feel free to dispute any EC state by state analysis. We elect by the EC, not the popular vote. I've opined for the last 2-3 months that Warren would be the nominee. I've said that her brand of populism will probably bode well for her in the midwest - that she'll probably hold MN and retake PA, MI and WI. I've said I don't think she will do as well in the south and mountain west (outside of CO & NM - NV will be close). And I've said she'll probably have to win the popular vote by at least 4-5% in order to win the EC. Which of these statements do you want to argue with? Or do you just want to name call? And while we're at it, why is Buttigieg a dumb, dbag candidate?

    I will add to the above that I think the election is extremely fluid because of the impeachment inquiry and Trump's increasingly bizarre behavior. The world of possibilities over the next 13 months could vary wildly. Most Washington Pubs would love to abandon Trump if they felt they had sufficient cover. The more bizarre he gets, the better the chances he's impeached and convicted. The timing of any impeachment and conviction could lead to a brokered Pub convention (and a nominee not named Trump - maybe Cruz or Sasse). Trump has already badly screwed the situation in Turkey and Syria. We could see the ME or some other foreign crisis blow up or enter a recession. On the flip side, Trump's situation could stabilize, and he could win a tight EC vote next year. As it stands today, I'd predict Warren will win the EC with 272-278 EVs and win by 5%.

  2. #8322
    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    She was trolling Trump. Like Strick said, the only people talking about Hillary running are conservatives. They're obsessed with her.

    Hillary Clinton
    muses about 2020
    'rematch' against
    Trump: 'I can beat him again'


    Fox News

    2 hours ago






    Hillary Clinton,
    enemy of
    womankind


    Washington Examiner
    1 hour ago





    WISH CASTING

    Conservatives Are Convincing Themselves That Clinton Will Run Again

    Even Donald Trump is getting into the act.


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/conser...ll-run-again-2
    You don’t have to do that. I don’t particularly care what Hillary does. I simply thought her comment was interesting and wanted to hear what you guys had to say as far as her potentially entering the race. I had no idea that was even a thing until an hour ago.

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    It's not a thing. If you asked any Dem if they could beat Trump, they's say they could.

  4. #8324
    Quote Originally Posted by RJKarl View Post
    It's not a thing. If you asked any Dem if they could beat Trump, they's say they could.
    Very true. I guess she’s been so out of sight, out of mind for me that, until today, I haven’t payed attention to her. I am genuinely curious as to how liberal voters view her. Is she someone that could win the nomination or is she generally disliked?

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    As I've said over and over again, the DEMS should NOT nonimate anyone over 60 for POTUS in 2020

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    Quote Originally Posted by DG3 View Post
    Very true. I guess she’s been so out of sight, out of mind for me that, until today, I haven’t payed attention to her. I am genuinely curious as to how liberal voters view her. Is she someone that could win the nomination or is she generally disliked?
    I think she is generally disliked at this stage and viewed as a failed candidate pretty much across the board. Who liberals blame for the failure of Clinton's candidacy varies pretty significantly, but I don't think there is a significant faction of liberal voters clamoring for Clinton 2020. Most of them just shifted their allegiances to Biden from what I can tell.
    We're going to be good again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DG3 View Post
    Very true. I guess she’s been so out of sight, out of mind for me that, until today, I haven’t payed attention to her. I am genuinely curious as to how liberal voters view her. Is she someone that could win the nomination or is she generally disliked?
    I know exactly 1 person who was excited by the Hillary candidacy in 2016 - 1 friend's 70 year old mom. Every other Dem I know thought she was competent and would do a decent enough job but was already kinda tired of her (and even more tired of the right's obsession with her). She had all of Bubba's baggage with none of his charm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DG3 View Post
    You don’t have to do that. I don’t particularly care what Hillary does. I simply thought her comment was interesting and wanted to hear what you guys had to say as far as her potentially entering the race. I had no idea that was even a thing until an hour ago.
    Anytime Hillary steps out in public, conservatives start claiming she’s running again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cville deac View Post
    I know exactly 1 person who was excited by the Hillary candidacy in 2016 - 1 friend's 70 year old mom. Every other Dem I know thought she was competent and would do a decent enough job but was already kinda tired of her (and even more tired of the right's obsession with her). She had all of Bubba's baggage with none of his charm.
    This is well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesSokolove View Post
    As I've said over and over again, the DEMS should NOT nonimate anyone over 60 for POTUS in 2020
    Agree. Unfortunately, there are no under 60 Dem primary candidates that are actual viable candidates right now.

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    Hillary would be a fine candidate if she weren’t ugly. The fact that Elizabeth Warren looks like everyone’s moms friend Susan will help
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  12. #8332
    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    Anytime Hillary steps out in public, conservatives start claiming she’s running again.
    ^This. The only people who get excited about Hillary running for any office again are Republicans. If she sends out a tweet attacking Trump, they all jump on it and claim that "she's back!" I know of a number of Democrats who thought she got a raw deal in 2016 and was held to a double standard compared to Trump, but I don't know of a single Democrat who hopes or thinks that she will run for POTUS or anything else ever again. It's a right-wing fantasy, and little more.

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    Warren and Clinton look similar to me. Clinton shouldn’t run and won’t run.

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    IIRC, Jh was a big proponent of the "Hilary is going to primary Obama" narrative in 2010-2011. Conservatives are just obsessed with the Clintons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeforest22890 View Post
    Warren and Clinton look similar to me. Clinton shouldn’t run and won’t run.
    Haha yeah I was just thinking that they look very similar to me, as well. If being ugly hurt HC, Warren is in trouble too.

  16. #8336
    Quote Originally Posted by DG3 View Post
    Haha yeah I was just thinking that they look very similar to me, as well. If being ugly hurt HC, Warren is in trouble too.
    I mean, I'd totes bang Warren. I'm probably a little old for her though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DG3 View Post
    Haha yeah I was just thinking that they look very similar to me, as well. If being ugly hurt HC, Warren is in trouble too.
    Hillary is a lot of things, but she’s not ugly
    Birds aren’t real

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsesinoDeTortugas View Post
    Hillary is a lot of things, but she’s not ugly
    She is homely. Even when she was young, she was about as "meh" a girl could be:


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    Quote Originally Posted by AsesinoDeTortugas View Post
    Hillary is a lot of things, but she’s not ugly
    She’s no Miss America. The problem is she ain’t no Miss Congeniality either.

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    glad we're discussing the important issues

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