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    Quote Originally Posted by myDeaconmyhand View Post
    The best way to ensure that the party runs a minority candidate is for Bernie to announce. I hope it doesn't play out like that because I don't like the optics of a schism between Democrat POC and white progressives. I'd rather the party announce a diverse progressive ticket early and Bernie/Warren endorse it.


    Dude, you pick a fight with me like once a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RChildress107 View Post
    Democrats just took back the House by becoming (both candidates and voters) younger, more progressive, and more female. The 2020 nominee should check off at least 2 of those three boxes. Nominating an old white centrist male from the East Coast seems like a mistake.
    Why donít you start by nominating the best candidate for the country instaad trying to check race and gender boxes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post


    Dude, you pick a fight with me like once a week.
    MDMH is to guilty to associate as white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFcatamount22 View Post
    Why donít you start by nominating the best candidate for the country instaad trying to check race and gender boxes?
    because this is wake forest where we'd prefer to never win anything except at putting on socks

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFcatamount22 View Post
    MDMH is to guilty to associate as white.
    LOL. "Off-white."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
    i guess you haven't been paying attention
    Clearly. Please explain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuiceCrewAllStar View Post
    the unfortunate problem with this is that the Electoral College system denies a straight-line analysis between House elections and Presidential elections

    overall, you're right and I think the Democrats win the popular vote (again)

    the question is whether the 10 or so key states stack up to demographic analysis you offered as well (it may, I just don't think it's apples to apples)
    FWIW, this is a figure from last Wednesday put together by 538. Even with some states and races undecided, Dems took the electoral college with at least 278 votes based on popular vote in each stateís house races.

    Birds are real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RChildress107 View Post
    Democrats just took back the House by becoming (both candidates and voters) younger, more progressive, and more female. The 2020 nominee should check off at least 2 of those three boxes. Nominating an old white centrist male from the East Coast seems like a mistake.
    Younger and more female, yes. More progressive in some bluer states, yes, but not in reddish states. In VA, Spanberger, Luria and Wexton are more on the moderate side (Spanberger has said she won't vote for Pelosi for speaker). One of the things the Dems did this midterm that was better than most is they got a whole lot of good candidates that tended to match their districts and states.

    As for 2020, the reason I said Biden might be the right person is I strongly believe he'd win a tete-a-tete against Trump. And yeah, unfortunately liberal northeasterners (outside of maybe Moulton) I see as having issues winning southern and midwestern states. But I'm more than cool going with someone from further west. Beto scares me a bit because his resume is thin - a 3 term congressman, and despite a strong run, he still lost to Cruz. I know nothing of Harris, other than a couple of friends have said she's a good stump speaker. Why do some of y'all say she can't win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFcatamount22 View Post
    Why donít you start by nominating the best candidate for the country instaad trying to check race and gender boxes?
    1. Race wasnít one of the boxes.

    2. The best candidate for the democrats will inevitably check off at least two of those boxes. If we find ourselves with a candidate who doesnít, then we didnít nominate the best candidate.

    3. Iím positive we donít need Republicans involved in the discussion of who Democrats should nominate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RChildress107 View Post
    1. Race wasnít one of the boxes.

    2. The best candidate for the democrats will inevitably check off at least two of those boxes. If we find ourselves with a candidate who doesnít, then we didnít nominate the best candidate.

    3. Iím positive we donít need Republicans involved in the discussion of who Democrats should nominate.
    wat

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheCaptain View Post
    wat
    Better put, itís a truism.

    Saying ďI think the Democrats should nominate someone who checks off the following boxesĒ is the same as saying ďI think the best candidate will check off the following boxes.Ē

    I obviously donít think those are the most important criteria. Iíd rather have Biden be the candidate than Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (if she were eligible to run) for example. But there are enough high quality candidates that are young, progressive, and/or female that it seems silly to look somewhere else unless there is a clearly better candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RChildress107 View Post
    1. Race wasnít one of the boxes.

    2. The best candidate for the democrats will inevitably check off at least two of those boxes. If we find ourselves with a candidate who doesnít, then we didnít nominate the best candidate.

    3. Iím positive we donít need Republicans involved in the discussion of who Democrats should nominate.
    If your not worried about trying to get my vote in this election, then enjoy feeling good about nominating your hard core leftist while Donald Trump enjoys four more years in office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFcatamount22 View Post
    If your not worried about trying to get my vote in this election, then enjoy feeling good about nominating your hard core leftist while Donald Trump enjoys four more years in office.
    I am not worried about getting your vote. I don't think Democrats should be worried about getting your vote. The amount of policy concessions that you would require in order to get your single vote is a far greater cost than attempting to GOTV with thousands of new voters. I'd rather spend my time getting those new voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsesinoDeTortugas View Post
    I am not worried about getting your vote. I don't think Democrats should be worried about getting your vote. The amount of policy concessions that you would require in order to get your single vote is a far greater cost than attempting to GOTV with thousands of new voters. I'd rather spend my time getting those new voters.
    This.
    Draxx them sklounst

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    Pubs are going to vote for Trump anyway. Why bother trying to get them to fall out of love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    Dude, you pick a fight with me like once a week.
    So? When exactly did you and I become appointed delegates for our political affiliation?
    Draxx them sklounst

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    Itís going to be Beto/Harris in some order barring a gigantic scandal.

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    Itís going to be Beto/Harris in some order barring a gigantic scandal.
    you have to wonder if scandals will matter anymore after 4 years of Trump. The next politician to get caught with his/her pants down (metaphor) is probably just going to pull a trump move and deny it and then say so what? Trump obviously is the master of this so it will be interesting to see if other pols will get away with it too or if they will be punished even moreso because Trump escaped from about 500 scandals and people want somebody to pay for it.

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    I could definitely see Trump making fun of Beto for not being able to beat Ted Cruz, because Lyin' Ted sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by SC DEAC View Post
    you have to wonder if scandals will matter anymore after 4 years of Trump. The next politician to get caught with his/her pants down (metaphor) is probably just going to pull a trump move and deny it and then say so what? Trump obviously is the master of this so it will be interesting to see if other pols will get away with it too or if they will be punished even moreso because Trump escaped from about 500 scandals and people want somebody to pay for it.
    Scandals will matter for the Democrats, not the Republicans.

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