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2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

Section2mankini said:
It's kinda sad and pathetic how all these people calling me BSF4L (I have no idea who that is) refuse to substantively engage with the points I make. I welcome reasonable dialectic. If pigeonholing me into some narrow construction of a previous poster makes you feel safe and less threatened from my efforts to seek out uncomfortable truths, then by all means continue to do so. Glib ad hominem comparisons do nothing other than reveal your own lack of credibility for all to see.
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How do you feel and Snowden and our drone program?
 
Man Bernie supporters and the conspiracy theories. Pretty vile stuff.

Bernie is the dark stain on democracy that his cold socialist heart yearns for. Good stuff guys keep it up.

Pete now leading in total votes and delegates!
 
WFcatamount22 said:
Man Bernie supporters and the conspiracy theories. Pretty vile stuff.

Bernie is the dark stain on democracy that his cold socialist heart yearns for. Good stuff guys keep it up.

Pete now leading in total votes and delegates!
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Dude, just STFU. You bring nothing of substance to this conversation.
 
I for one welcome the same twitter trash that Russian bots promote to these boards, gives me insight into what’s being pushed to create division.
 
Section2mankini said:
https://apnews.com/5232ce5601996c1de440806ad30fa4fb

Rig: manage or conduct (something) fraudulently so as to produce a result or situation that is advantageous to a particular person.

Yes I watched it and I believe it. It's past incompetence at this point. It's been over 48 hours since the results should've come out. I tried to withhold judgment for as long as I could because it brings me no pleasure to criticize our institutions. It hurts whoever the nominee ends up being, and that only hurts our chances to defeat Trump. But defeating Trump is not the end-all, be-all if the institutions for picking our nominee is this incompetent, corrupt, rigged (pick your adjective).

First, the app malfunctions. Let's just call that gross incompetence and the McGowan-Halle ties just your everyday politics-as-usual corruption (which in a sane world would be talked about non-stop). Then the IDC decides to release an arbitrary 62%, and now 71% of the voter count, with zero transparency and what appears to be cherry-picking of the results (I'll attach the tweet). Then the DNC announces that it's "taking over" the accounting of the votes (link below). The same DNC that took $20 million from the Hillary campaign when it was $2 million in debt and gave her control over its operations in 2016? The same DNC that just changed the rules to allow Bloomberg on the debate stage after his $300k donation to the DNC? Come the fuck on.

Thank God the Sanders campaign had the foresight to ask their own volunteers to keep track of the results without telling the IDP or the DNC. My growing suspicion, as much as it pains me to say, is that the DNC and the IDP are either (1) intentionally delaying releasing the results at an arbitrary point to prop up Pete, or more cynically, are (2) trying to manipulate the results in a way that doesn't clash with the Sander's campaign's internal polling. Please provide me with a more logical or reasonable explanation at this point. I really would like to believe it's something else.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/iowa-democratic-party-anticipates-releasing-majority-caucus-results/story?id=68744850
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Or maybe just MAYBE it is inefficient government institutions failing miserably at implementing technology they really know nothing about.
 
lol ok

Sorry we won’t get to hear a defense of the system now that 3 people pushed back
 
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