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2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

Highland Deac said:
NC may be more likely to be in play than OH. Obama won NC in 2008 by a very close margin, and he lost it in 2012 by less than two percent. Trump won by less than 4%, and that was with most rural counties voting for him by 70% or more. I think the GOP vote is close to being maxed out in these rural areas, while the Dem vote in urban areas like Mecklenburg, Wake, Guilford, etc. is still growing. It definitely leans GOP, but I don't think it's a lock by any means, especially if Cooper can make a strong re-election bid and the Dem Senate candidate can organize a strong grassroots effort. I agree that the 3 key states are PA, MI, and WI in the Midwest, if the Dems lose any one of those, it's going to be extremely difficult for them to win. AZ is definitely a strong possibility, as Sinema won an impressive victory in her Senate race there last year.
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Agree on NC being more likely than OH, which bought Trump's sell hard. There was a 15 point difference there from 2012 to 2016. NC is gradually turning more purple, and can be turned depending on who the nominee is. The most money and attention should be in PA, MI and WI and holding VA, MN and NV, which were narrow wins. After that, FL, NC, NH, AZ, IA and ME - the last 3 because of winnable senate races. It would also be helpful to have a nominee with whom Mark Kelly would be happy sharing a stage and who could have a coattail effect down ballot. (And I'm still not sure who that is.)
 
AsesinoDeTortugas said:
The EC fight doesn’t matter unless you win PA, MI, and WI back. I think GA, OH and AZ could be in play in the right circumstances, but I think they are likely red states. The Democratic win condition is very narrow. Have to go hard in the upper MW.
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If PA and MI get the black vote out like in 2012 or 2008, they should flip...that would still leave Trump ahead 270-268. I don't see him holding WI. If Mark Kelly runs for Senate in AZ, the Dem will win AZ.

If the Dems had any cajones, they could turn FL and possibly one or both of NC and GA. But as I've said for decades Dems too chickenshit.
 
this is what it looks like to not be chickenshit:

 
It’s really not complicated. Would you rather pay money for health insurance and then pay more money when you actually need health care? Or just pay money and get health care?

The vultures in the system and their Republican and centrists stooges have convinced us they should be able to hold us hostage with our own money.
 
RJKarl said:
If PA and MI get the black vote out like in 2012 or 2008, they should flip...that would still leave Trump ahead 270-268. I don't see him holding WI. If Mark Kelly runs for Senate in AZ, the Dem will win AZ.

If the Dems had any cajones, they could turn FL and possibly one or both of NC and GA. But as I've said for decades Dems too chickenshit.
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Depending on the nominee, I do think MI, PA and WI are more probable for the blue team at this time. But also remember VA, NH, MN and NV were narrowly won in 2016 and must be held in order to reach 278. Mark Kelly is running in AZ, but I'd hardly call that a done deal. I think his fate could be determined by who the nominee is. AZ is still a conservative state, and a Sanders or Warren is unlikely to win it.
 
Good read from Tim Wise. I think Democrats do need to focus on policy but not without losing the bigger messages of demonstrating how Republicans and the last 40 years of conservatism have hurt this country.
 
yeah, big tech sucks. people have been complaining about it for years.

good try, though.

maybe republicans shouldn't have allowed corporations so much power or encouraged SCOTUS to allow corporate money to influence politics. that's why we need publicly funded elections
 
The DNC or some candidate needs to do an ad of the Statue of Liberty crying as she looks at that father and daughter dead on the bank of the Rio Grande, pictures of children in cages and Trump saying America is closed.
 
MHBDemon said:
cough...Harris...cough
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Took you almost 2 weeks to come up with an answer.

That poll looks bad for Trump until you consider this. Plenty of those 45% of men and 61% of women aren't going to vote for anybody.
 
Or I provided answers then, and I'm providing another today after she proved my point again.
 
MHBDemon said:
cough...Harris...cough
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lol Harris is not a centrist. She isn't a democratic socialist and she isn't an OG progressive like Warren, but she is not a centrist.

Also, come back at that with something other than her prosecution record.
 
AsesinoDeTortugas said:
lol Harris is not a centrist. She isn't a democratic socialist and she isn't an OG progressive like Warren, but she is not a centrist.

Also, come back at that with something other than her prosecution record.
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If you have to exclude 13 years of a career to prove someone isn’t a centrist...

My point was that she is co-opting Medicare for All and muddying the water. Whether she is or is not a centrist isn’t relevant to my broader point.
 
What is your goal with respect to health care?
 
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