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Thread: 2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

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    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    I unabashedly love Bernie, but I think I agree with this take. If his health is remotely a concern, take the rest of the campaign off and go be a senator again. We need all the help we can get in the Senate in 2020.
    Yeah I like Bernie a lot as well but if heís scaling back he canít win. He will lose ground and his health will always be a topic. Continue your movement through supporting another progressive candidate who shares many of your views. Warren is on the upswing and broadening the coalition is only going to help her secure the nomination and beat Donald.

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    To be fair, they mean not doing 4 rallies a day, and scaling back to the schedule the rest of the other candidates are on, but I just want my dude to get healthy. The campaign trail cannot be a good place to do that. Build a bench and go downballot for all these awesome progressive challengers to dumb ChrisL/cville dbag candidates.

    I feel like it bears repeating that Donald got fewer votes than Mitt Romney. He didn't win because his ideas were popular or he was a great candidate, he won because Hillary was a horrible candidate. Let's not repeat those mistakes in 2020. Warren seems to be threading the needle well with progressive ideas, still getting big money donors, used to be a Republican and doesn't talk down to working class people, generally respected by labor. It'll be much easier for her to close any enthusiasm gap than Hillary. I think she can get more white women voters than Hillary if she adopts more of Gillibrand's family policies. I don't think she can get an appreciable amount more of the white dude vote, except for maybe some nonvoters. Getting Trump defectors is not a task worth pursuing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    To be fair, they mean not doing 4 rallies a day, and scaling back to the schedule the rest of the other candidates are on, but I just want my dude to get healthy. The campaign trail cannot be a good place to do that. Build a bench and go downballot for all these awesome progressive challengers to dumb ChrisL/cville dbag candidates.

    I feel like it bears repeating that Donald got fewer votes than Mitt Romney. He didn't win because his ideas were popular or he was a great candidate, he won because Hillary was a horrible candidate. Let's not repeat those mistakes in 2020. Warren seems to be threading the needle well with progressive ideas, still getting big money donors, used to be a Republican and doesn't talk down to working class people, generally respected by labor. It'll be much easier for her to close any enthusiasm gap than Hillary. I think she can get more white women voters than Hillary if she adopts more of Gillibrand's family policies. I don't think she can get an appreciable amount more of the white dude vote, except for maybe some nonvoters. Getting Trump defectors is not a task worth pursuing.
    I'm really hoping that the bold happens.
    We're going to be good again.

  4. #8304

    2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

    Itís ridiculously early but based on the RCP average, Clinton never had as big a lead over Donald in polling as either Warren, Biden, or Bernie currently do. Obviously electoral college changes the analysis but youíre not going to sniff the victory on any front if you only get 40 percent of the vote and lose by 10+ points overall.

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    Now is the time when cville starts listing states

  6. #8306
    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeforest22890 View Post
    Itís ridiculously early but based on the RCP average, Clinton never had as big a lead over Donald in polling as either Warren, Biden, or Bernie currently do. Obviously electoral college changes the analysis but youíre not going to sniff the victory on any front if you only get 40 percent of the vote and lose by 10+ points overall.
    What about if you only get %40 of the vote but stamp your feet, say the election is rigged, lock yourself in the oval office, and threaten to nuke Turkey if they make you leave?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    Now is the time when cville starts typing the word "Virginia"
    We're going to be good again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonwolverine View Post
    What about if you only get %40 of the vote but stamp your feet, say the election is rigged, lock yourself in the oval office, and threaten to nuke Turkey if they make you leave?
    Trump wouldn't do that. He has a hotel in Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strickland33 View Post
    I'm really hoping that the bold happens.
    I've found that white women under 45 have quite a bit of antipathy toward Hillary.

    Hillary could have helped herself by not doing what Dole, Gore, Kerry (to an extent), McCain, and Romney did and lose all sense of personality in order to be presidential.

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    2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

    Havenít had time to read through, but whatís the thought on Hillary entering the race again? Looking like thatís gonna happen.
    Last edited by DG3; 10-09-2019 at 01:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    I've found that white women under 45 have quite a bit of antipathy toward Hillary.

    Hillary could have helped herself by not doing what Dole, Gore, Kerry (to an extent), McCain, and Romney did and lose all sense of personality in order to be presidential.
    I bolded the sentence talking about how Warren should adopt some of Gillibrand's "family bill of rights" platform. That doesn't really have anything to do with Hilary Clinton, but I agree with Townie that including more "family policy" into her platform will boost Warren's popularity.
    We're going to be good again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DG3 View Post
    Havenít had time to read through, but whatís the though on Hillary entering the race again? Looking like thatís gonna happen.
    LOL. Based on what? That one tweet at Trump? That's just some stuff conservatives say to keep their base frothing at the mouth.

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    whatever it is, i hope it's not true

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    LOL. Based on what? That one tweet at Trump? That's just some stuff conservatives say to keep their base frothing at the mouth.
    The fact she said today that there should be a rematch? This oneís right out of her mouth.

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    It's funny (and fitting) that the only people still paying attention to Hilary Clinton are conservatives.
    We're going to be good again.

  16. #8316
    Quote Originally Posted by DG3 View Post
    The fact she said today that there should be a rematch? This oneís right out of her mouth.
    It was a joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by DG3 View Post
    The fact she said today that there should be a rematch? This oneís right out of her mouth.
    She was trolling Trump. Like Strick said, the only people talking about Hillary running are conservatives. They're obsessed with her.

    Hillary Clinton
    muses about 2020
    'rematch' against
    Trump: 'I can beat him again'


    Fox News

    2 hours ago






    Hillary Clinton,
    enemy of
    womankind


    Washington Examiner
    1 hour ago





    WISH CASTING

    Conservatives Are Convincing Themselves That Clinton Will Run Again

    Even Donald Trump is getting into the act.


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/conser...ll-run-again-2
    The idea that Clinton would mount a third presidential bid has circulated for months among fringe right-wing activists. Now, as House Democrats move closer to impeaching Trump, more mainstream pro-Trump figures are picking up the same claim.
    ďDo not be surprised, my friends, if she decides to try again in 2020,Ē radio host Rush Limbaugh told his national audience on Sept. 27. ďDo not be surprised.Ē
    The phantom presidential campaign theory has also been picked up by former Trump adviser Steve Bannon, who said on Fox Business on Sept. 30 that ďshe is running.Ē And itís been embraced over the past few days on Fox News, where hosts like Greg Gutfeld, Tucker Carlson, and Laura Ingraham have claimed Clinton could enter the race.

  18. #8318
    Quote Originally Posted by Strickland33 View Post
    It's funny (and fitting) that the only people still paying attention to Hilary Clinton are conservatives.
    I didnít realize PBS interview was somehow conservative. You might not like it, but she said it today. Sheís been all over talk shows the last few weeks. Could certainly be a coincidence in regards to timing of the primary and whatever publicly tour sheís on, but I guess only she knows.

  19. #8319
    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    Now is the time when cville starts listing states
    Feel free to dispute any EC state by state analysis. We elect by the EC, not the popular vote. I've opined for the last 2-3 months that Warren would be the nominee. I've said that her brand of populism will probably bode well for her in the midwest - that she'll probably hold MN and retake PA, MI and WI. I've said I don't think she will do as well in the south and mountain west (outside of CO & NM - NV will be close). And I've said she'll probably have to win the popular vote by at least 4-5% in order to win the EC. Which of these statements do you want to argue with? Or do you just want to name call? And while we're at it, why is Buttigieg a dumb, dbag candidate?

    I will add to the above that I think the election is extremely fluid because of the impeachment inquiry and Trump's increasingly bizarre behavior. The world of possibilities over the next 13 months could vary wildly. Most Washington Pubs would love to abandon Trump if they felt they had sufficient cover. The more bizarre he gets, the better the chances he's impeached and convicted. The timing of any impeachment and conviction could lead to a brokered Pub convention (and a nominee not named Trump - maybe Cruz or Sasse). Trump has already badly screwed the situation in Turkey and Syria. We could see the ME or some other foreign crisis blow up or enter a recession. On the flip side, Trump's situation could stabilize, and he could win a tight EC vote next year. As it stands today, I'd predict Warren will win the EC with 272-278 EVs and win by 5%.

  20. #8320
    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    She was trolling Trump. Like Strick said, the only people talking about Hillary running are conservatives. They're obsessed with her.

    Hillary Clinton
    muses about 2020
    'rematch' against
    Trump: 'I can beat him again'


    Fox News

    2 hours ago






    Hillary Clinton,
    enemy of
    womankind


    Washington Examiner
    1 hour ago





    WISH CASTING

    Conservatives Are Convincing Themselves That Clinton Will Run Again

    Even Donald Trump is getting into the act.


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/conser...ll-run-again-2
    You donít have to do that. I donít particularly care what Hillary does. I simply thought her comment was interesting and wanted to hear what you guys had to say as far as her potentially entering the race. I had no idea that was even a thing until an hour ago.

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