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  1. #361
    Exactly!!! Great explanation....


    Quote Originally Posted by Pilchard View Post
    Now RJ is counting experience as an Power 6 assistant, not as a HC.

    By that criteria, both of WF's previous failed HC's had P6 experience as Manning was a Power 6 player and an assistant coach, and as stated above, [] had Power 6 experience; how safe were those hires?

    There is nothing "safer" about hiring a coach with "Power 6" experience as an assistant than a successful head coach at a mid major. You want to claim that Chill or Steve Woodbury or even Nolan Smith (Duke) or Ron Sanchez (UVA) or Steve Robinson (UNC) is a safer hire because of their Power 6 experience than Mark Few, Gregg Marshall, Bob McKillop (Davidson), Nate Oats (Buffalo) Casey Alexander (Lipscomb) or Kyle Smith (San Francisco)? Don't think so, but under the Power 6 criteria all of those non-Power 6 coaches are excluded.

    FWIW, the random Power 6 decree doesn't exclude RJ arch-enemy Wes Miller. He played for three years in a Power 6 program; he even wrote a book entitled "The Road to Blue Heaven" (perhaps a disqualifying decision) about his experience at UNC .

    You want to exclude Nate Oats because he didn't serve a year as an assistant at Rutgers 10 years ago? Bad move. He built a program with no tradition, no natural recruiting base, and he will get a Power 6 job. So, under RJ's criterion, in 2010, [] would've been a safer hire than Brad Stevens coming off a NC game appearance? Don't think so.

    Other successful Power 6 head coaches with no experience as a Power 6 head or assistant coach when they were hired:

    - Chris Holtmann (Ohio State)
    - Tim Miles (Nebraska)
    - Scott Drew (Baylor)
    - Bryce Drew (Vandy)
    - Brad Brownell (Clemson)
    - John Beilein (WV)
    - Steve Prohm (Iowa State)
    - Ben Howland (Pitt)
    - Jamie Dixon (Pitt)



    The larger point is this: WF needs to consider all possible candidates and pick 1. The Power 6 mandate is unnecessarily limiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadiandeac View Post
    ahh thanks for clarifying...its annoying in football, and thats coming from an ecu alumn.
    No worries. Another oddity about that conference is that I believe only Butler isn't a Catholic based university.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siff View Post
    This looks like a Drumpf tweet
    That's really low...

    But it can't be in that I told the truth.


  4. #364
    Wes was an assistant at Elon during Nestorís last season as HC.
    Last edited by deaclite; 01-04-2019 at 11:47 AM.

  5. #365
    Ron Wellmans list should include
    TJ Otzelberger-SDSU
    Nate Oats-Buffalo
    Earl Grant-C of Charleston
    Wes Miller-UNCG
    Pat Kelsey-Winthrop
    Steve Forbes-ETSU
    John Brannen-Northern Kentucky
    Any of those would be really good hires IMO.

  6. #366
    Earl Grant has a nice coaching resume. He projects as a strong candidate for serious consideration.

  7. #367
    I want Grant or Oats.
    Runs with deer.

  8. #368
    My sources are telling me Manning is a dead man walking. The writing is on the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy8 View Post
    My sources are telling me Manning is a dead man walking. The writing is on the wall.
    If "my sources" means your brain and your eyes, those are the same most of us are hearing from.

  10. #370
    bigboy, I hope that's true! Are your sources reliable???

  11. #371
    Barring a miracle Manning is gone. There is a buyout but it has outs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy8 View Post
    Ron Wellmans list should include
    TJ Otzelberger-SDSU
    Nate Oats-Buffalo
    Earl Grant-C of Charleston
    Wes Miller-UNCG
    Pat Kelsey-Winthrop
    Steve Forbes-ETSU
    John Brannen-Northern Kentucky
    Any of those would be really good hires IMO.
    Whomever brought up TJ made a good find. Anyone who can recruit to Iowa State can recruit anywhere.

  13. #373
    I like that it appears Otzelberger is in with that Villa 7 group where you can get dope assistants.
    Runs with deer.

  14. #374
    Rick Pitino come on down!

  15. #375
    Brannen will probably move up the ladder at some point because he's paid peanuts at NKU, but he's closing in on 50 and he grew up in northern Kentucky. So there's that.

  16. #376
    Down 36-16 at home to Wofford at the half.

    At least such beatdowns would be a familiar feeling

  17. #377
    My hometown Terriers destroying Miller and UNCG by 32 with 7 minutes to go in Greensboro.

    Can we please stop this talk about Miller? Maybe we should be talking about Mike Young.

  18. #378
    It'd be nice and convenient if Wes were a stud coach.

    But he's not

  19. #379
    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy8 View Post
    Ron Wellmans list should include
    TJ Otzelberger-SDSU
    Nate Oats-Buffalo
    Earl Grant-C of Charleston
    Wes Miller-UNCG
    Pat Kelsey-Winthrop
    Steve Forbes-ETSU
    John Brannen-Northern Kentucky
    Any of those would be really good hires IMO.
    What about Bob Richey Furman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironwill24 View Post
    What about Bob Richey Furman?
    No P6 experience...virtually no HC experience...

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