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Thread: Wes Miller Watch 2018-2019

  1. #381
    NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

  2. #382
    ^ nice avatar

  3. #383
    Quote Originally Posted by RJKarl View Post
    No P6 experience...virtually no HC experience...
    Richey would be a good hire. Apparently RJ still thinks this is a good job.

  4. #384
    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy8 View Post
    My sources are telling me Manning is a dead man walking. The writing is on the wall.
    A good friend with close connections to WF athletics told me the same thing 2 days ago. He had promised his source anonymity. I can guess the source, but the fact that it couldnít be shared tells me itís reliable information.

  5. #385
    Quote Originally Posted by wsc8521s View Post
    It'd be nice and convenient if Wes were a stud coach.

    But he's not
    Yup. I wouldn't totally hate the hire if that were to happen, it just doesn't excite the hell out of me.

  6. #386
    Watched part of the UNCG game tonight and part of the Winthrop v. Campbell game tonight. Was not impressed with the way either Wes Miller's or Pat Kelsey's teams played tonight. I don't think either of those guys will be enough to turn this thing around like Keatts did with NC State.

  7. #387
    Quote Originally Posted by netflixnchildres View Post
    Watched part of the UNCG game tonight and part of the Winthrop v. Campbell game tonight. Was not impressed with the way either Wes Miller's or Pat Kelsey's teams played tonight. I don't think either of those guys will be enough to turn this thing around like Keatts did with NC State.
    But there is really no way to know... you have to take a shot and sometimes you miss. Our last two hires have been safe and conservative and still missed.

  8. #388
    Quote Originally Posted by LilburnDeac View Post
    But there is really no way to know... you have to take a shot and sometimes you miss. Our last two hires have been safe and conservative and still missed.
    Neither were safe. They were both extreme reaches.

  9. #389
    Charleston had a bad loss tonight too.

    Blew a 13 point second half lead at home to a bad Drexel team. Got out scored 11-1 to end the game.

  10. #390
    Quote Originally Posted by RacerDeac View Post
    Neither were safe. They were both extreme reaches.
    Who is a safe hire then?

    Bz had coached for 30 years. NBA, college, Big 10 and PAC 12. He had taken teams to the NCAA tournament and NBA playoffs. Agree that he sucked, but he had a resume.

    Similarly, Manning was a 9 year assistant at KS; had played and coached teams with a Natty, and head coached another team to the NCAAs. Itís not like either lacked credentials.

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    Cmon Pilch. Bz was a loser. His resume of losing was clear. Thatís why nobody wanted him. Manning has little history of winning. Thatís why we were disappointed he was the choice.

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    Not sure who ďweĒ are. Is it the same ďweĒ that wanted John Pelphrey as head coach?

  13. #393
    Quote Originally Posted by Pilchard View Post
    Who is a safe hire then?
    Generally someone actually recognized by the press and others as a good coach or an up and coming coach. You know, a coach others are actually interested in hiring. No one was knocking down [name redacted] or Manning's doors when we came calling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerDeac View Post
    Generally someone actually recognized by the press and others as a good coach or an up and coming coach. You know, a coach others are actually interested in hiring. No one was knocking down [name redacted] or Manning's doors when we came calling.
    This. Itís not difficult.

  16. #396
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackjackMc View Post
    Thad Matta.
    Rick Barnes

  17. #397
    That John Pelphrey horse is getting pretty tired.

    In fairness to Wellman, Bz and Manning were not terrible choices on paper (not great by any means but not terrible either).

    It's just amazing to me that RW so badly misjudged their ability to connect with and motivate players. It shouldn't have taken more than five minutes of interviewing Bz to know he wasn't a good fit from a personality standpoint. Making those sorts of judgment calls and getting them right are what the guy gets paid to do.

  18. #398
    Buzz Williams was a safe hire. Archie Miller was a safe hire. Chris Mack was a safe hire. From a winning perspective, Bruce Pearl was a safe hire.
    For Wake, Nate Oats is the safe hire. I hope UCLA gets someone like Pitino, so there isnít a domino effect of coaching changes. One article I read had UCLA going after Keats, which would suck as another ACC job in NC would suddenly be open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inspectah View Post
    That John Pelphrey horse is getting pretty tired.

    In fairness to Wellman, Bz and Manning were not terrible choices on paper (not great by any means but not terrible either).

    It's just amazing to me that RW so badly misjudged their ability to connect with and motivate players. It shouldn't have taken more than five minutes of interviewing Bz to know he wasn't a good fit from a personality standpoint. Making those sorts of judgment calls and getting them right are what the guy gets paid to do.
    Bz was a terrible choice on paper, in person, and everywhere in between

    the laughable "what they're saying" essentially said as much - we know what you're thinking, but look what Coach K has to say about Jeff!

  20. #400
    [name redacted] was a low floor, low ceiling hire from the beginning. Neither safe nor high upside. Not only was he one of the worst ACC head coaches of all time, but he was also one of the worst hires of all time. He was in his late 50s and had never built a winning program and had spent 8 years in the state of Colorado (so didn't have relevant recruiting ties). His only winning seasons were with the loaded Air Force teams that he inherited from Joe Scott and Chris Mooney, and he was coming off of a 36-58 record with Colorado (despite lucking into a NBA grade player in Burks). At Air Force, he had absolutely not laid the foundation for success, as the program has had 2 winning seasons in the last 11.

    Manning was not a safe hire, with only two years of head coaching experience, but did have higher upside because at least he hadn't failed to build a winning program or turned a winning program into a perennial loser because he was so eager to bolt for a better job.

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