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Jeffrey Epstein

People, cough Trumps supporters, seem to forget that Donald donated to the Clintons' campaigns, including Hillary's in 2008. They are far more linked than either would like to admit.

Yeah that was when the evil bitch socialist was still considered better than the mild-mannered, professorial African American guy.
 
This thread is a really sad glimpse into the worldview of Trump supporters. There seems to be glee that Bill Clinton might get caught up in these disgusting crimes to "own libs", and a defense of Trump that he is not involved (how does anyone know??). I hope neither Trump nor Clinton were involved. These crimes are disgusting and sub-human, and I would also hope a current or former POTUS would never be engaged in this conduct. But if they are, the consequences be damned. Political party affiliation be damned. Send them all to jail.
 
for fuck's sake al franken was forced to resign, and not by republicans
 
This thread is a really sad glimpse into the worldview of Trump supporters. There seems to be glee that Bill Clinton might get caught up in these disgusting crimes to "own libs", and a defense of Trump that he is not involved (how does anyone know??). I hope neither Trump nor Clinton were involved. These crimes are disgusting and sub-human, and I would also hope a current or former POTUS would never be engaged in this conduct. But if they are, the consequences be damned. Political party affiliation be damned. Send them all to jail.

TITCR

Millhouse’s post stands as a stark reminder that there’s only one party that honestly believes in accountability on the whole. Which sadly, is a political disadvantage these days.
 
TITCR

Millhouse’s post stands as a stark reminder that there’s only one party that honestly believes in accountability on the whole. Which sadly, is a political disadvantage these days.

It would be disappointing to find out that over a third of my life America has been run by men who rape little girls. Not really surprising though.
 
TITCR

Millhouse’s post stands as a stark reminder that there’s only one party that honestly believes in accountability on the whole. Which sadly, is a political disadvantage these days.

A perfect example of this is if Jim Jordan was a Dem, he wouldn't have lasted a week due to Republican attacks and then Dems joining in versus being one of the most public, loudest and most powerful Republicans in the House.

Seriously, could you imagine what the GOP, Faux News and others would do if a Dem from CA had been a coach at UCLA and covered for a fellow coach sexually assaulting dozens of their athletes over many years? What would have happened if five or more of his players went public saying they had told that Dem about the serial abuser and done nothing?

Jim Jordan is the living, breathing example of how weak and cowardly the Dems are!
 
Bubba claiming he knows nothing.

Like Trump, he is full of shit. No chance that hornball didnt partake.

As with all things Clinton, you have to carefully parse what he says. Claims to "never" have been to Epstein Island. But then limits his claim that staff and secret service accompanied him on flights on Epstein Air to 4 flights in 2002-2003. Never says whether he was on flights in other years, and who was with him. I hope this takes down both Clinton and Trump. They are both disgusting.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Statement on Jeffrey Epstein. <a href="https://t.co/98ha9YYd1l">pic.twitter.com/98ha9YYd1l</a></p>— Angel Ureña (@angelurena) <a href="https://twitter.com/angelurena/status/1148357927625023490?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 8, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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People, cough Trumps supporters, seem to forget that Donald donated to the Clintons' campaigns, including Hillary's in 2008. They are far more linked than either would like to admit.

Sadly, it wouldn't be at all surprising if turned out that Bill and Trump did some nasty stuff together back in the day, when Trump was still just a wealthy celebrity blowhard and Bill was either POTUS (90s) or a rising star in the Democratic Party (80s). Their mutual hatred doesn't seem to extend to very far before 2016.
 
Bubba claiming he knows nothing.

Like Trump, he is full of shit. No chance that hornball didnt partake.

It depends on exactly what kind of partaking Bubba and Trump did. If all they did was have sex with consenting adults, I don't really care. However, if they engaged in coercion or sex with minors, then they should be prosecuted. I'm assuming that Epstein has had both underage girls and adult women available at his estate, on his plane and on his island. I did an internet search on stories involving Epstein with Bubba and Trump a year or 2 ago. Most of the news outlets that had stories on the topic were organizations with which I was not familiar, so I have no idea as to the accuracy of the stories. But some of the stuff I remember was that Dershowitz was accused of raping a minor, Bubba ditched his secret service detail on a number of occasions to fly on the Lolita Express, and a 15 year old at the time who worked for Trump at Mar a Lago as a locker room attendant went to work for Epstein at his Florida estate as a masseuse. And both Trump and Bubba are alleged to have been on the Lolita Express and on Sex Slave Island.

I find 2 statements interesting. Bubba's people issued a statement yesterday saying the few times he traveled with Epstein he had his secret service detail and Clinton Foundation folks with him and that he'd never been to Epstein's Florida estate, his island or New Mexico ranch. That statement boxes him into a bit of a corner and is awfully specific - not sure why he didn't just issue a more general denial of inappropriate activity. If it's not true, you'd think witness testimony and flight logs might prove otherwise, so it invites news organizations to look further into his relationship with Epstein. The other interesting statement was Trump's from years back saying Epstein also liked the ladies but liked them young. On the 1 hand, it suggests knowledge of Epstein employing and having sex with minors. On the other, it might also suggest Trump doesn't similarly have sex with girls that young. We'll see. Also saw that 1 of the English royals has had ties to Epstein.

I'm interested to see if he gets bail, and what happens if he does. Also interested in the double jeopardy arguments because, if he loses those arguments, the feds are going after all his properties that are connected with his trafficking. It would also be extremely convenient for his rich and famous friends if he would die while in jail awaiting the trial. This could be a great story line for Phoebe Waller Bridge for 1 of next year's Killing Eve - have Villanelle off Epstein.
 
I'm guessing Clinton got all the data from his security detail. Given that they are federal employees, it should be easy to prove those actions and former POTUS can't take a dump without the Secret Service covering the door. Like him or not, he understands the game. He knows his statement can easily be verified or villified.
 
https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2019/07/09/jeffrey-epstein-prosecution-1402265

Here's a piece in Politico today talking about the double jeopardy issue. Sounds like the prosecution team in Florida the last time around drafted a murky non-prosecution agreement with certain obligations on Epstein. The question is if it has to be construed as a global agreement preventing other jurisdictions from going after Epstein, and it looks like the government will prevail, at least on being able to prosecute him on New York related issues. If his legal team wanted to prevent future prosecutions in other jurisdictions, they would have had to have gotten those other jurisdictions to sign off on the plea settlement.
 
I'm interested to see if he gets bail, and what happens if he does. Also interested in the double jeopardy arguments because, if he loses those arguments, the feds are going after all his properties that are connected with his trafficking. It would also be extremely convenient for his rich and famous friends if he would die while in jail awaiting the trial. This could be a great story line for Phoebe Waller Bridge for 1 of next year's Killing Eve - have Villanelle off Epstein.

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I thought Barr said he was recused from any Epstein case. If he hasn't and steps in, there will be a national explosion. Protecting a serial pedophile will not be accepted.

Here's a question, would the threat of life in supermax or forty years in general population be a bigger threat to Epstein to get him to give up those who participated. It looks like his homes will be forfeited if he is convicted.
 
I thought Barr said he was recused from any Epstein case. If he hasn't and steps in, there will be a national explosion. Protecting a serial pedophile will not be accepted.

Here's a question, would the threat of life in supermax or forty years in general population be a bigger threat to Epstein to get him to give up those who participated. It looks like his homes will be forfeited if he is convicted.

No, unfortunately, there will not.
 
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I thought Barr said he was recused from any Epstein case. If he hasn't and steps in, there will be a national explosion. Protecting a serial pedophile will not be accepted.

Here's a question, would the threat of life in supermax or forty years in general population be a bigger threat to Epstein to get him to give up those who participated. It looks like his homes will be forfeited if he is convicted.




Dude's book deal is going to be $$$$$
 
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