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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Medlin View Post
    Kinda like when all the shit forwards were taken ahead of Josh Howard
    LOL. I had thought about posting that too. Bunch of HS kids nobody has heard from since.

    My last memory of that is Dick Vitale talking over Howard’s highlights complaining about HS kids not going to college.

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    Did not even make Bill Simmons annual trade value column. Bust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    LOL. I had thought about posting that too. Bunch of HS kids nobody has heard from since.

    My last memory of that is Dick Vitale talking over Howard’s highlights complaining about HS kids not going to college.
    Josh 13th in Win Share out of that draft class (behind 4 2nd rounders including ZaZa Pachulia, who is single-handedly making me re-evaluate my thoughts on Win Shares

    non-college players were pretty awful in that class with the notable exception of that kid from Akron

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    never put together that the Big Miami 3 were all in the same draft class

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuiceCrewAllStar View Post
    never put together that the Big Miami 3 were all in the same draft class
    How else did they all become free agents the same year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegrass Deac View Post
    Imagine being a Pacers fan, knowing your team took TJ Leaf over Collins. Leaf is leading the league in picking splinters out of his ass.
    The Bucks pick of DJ Wilson was even worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy2016 View Post
    Josh 13th in Win Share out of that draft class (behind 4 2nd rounders including ZaZa Pachulia, who is single-handedly making me re-evaluate my thoughts on Win Shares

    non-college players were pretty awful in that class with the notable exception of that kid from Akron
    That really makes you question winshares. I guess his career was cut way short, but I'd still expect him to be higher than Kirk Hinrich at #7. I guess Hinrich played alotta games with some good Bulls teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by palmab03 View Post
    How else did they all become free agents the same year?
    because I'm not that smart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Medlin View Post
    Kinda like when all the shit forwards were taken ahead of Josh Howard
    At least nobody like the Bullets/Wizards were dumb enough to pick Karl Malone ahead of Kenny Green. That would've been ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakeforest22890 View Post
    I still wonder the same thing I wondered when those mock drafts came out and then he went 19th or whatever - who the fuck was that much better than John Collins when he entered the draft? Anyone that watched Wake games knew how talented he was and it seemed pretty evident that his style of play would fit in with the NBA.

    I remain baffled about him not going lottery. Was the knock his time at Wake, his relatively lower ratings out of high school, both? Something else? I truly don't get it. I mean the guy should've been ACC POY as a sophomore based on the numbers and he went 19th.
    This plus, if I remember correctly, his wingspan did not exceed his height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silk View Post
    This plus, if I remember correctly, his wingspan did not exceed his height.
    This is true.

    It’s still pretty funny in hindsight that Leaf and Wilson went before him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strickland33 View Post
    This is true.

    It’s still pretty funny in hindsight that Leaf and Wilson went before him.
    It was funny at that time. Collins was a Sophmore and one of the best 2 players in the ACC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleDeac View Post
    At least nobody like the Bullets/Wizards were dumb enough to pick Karl Malone ahead of Kenny Green. That would've been ridiculous.
    Green and Childress were NBA busts, no question

    Rogers and Bogues basically lived up to their draft positions

    Duncan overachieved despite going #1
    CP3 way overachieved and LOL at the Hawks in particular
    Teague overachieved, Howard overachieved, James Johnson about even, AFA - meh, Ish has carved out a nice career from free agency

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy2016 View Post
    Green and Childress were NBA busts, no question

    Rogers and Bogues basically lived up to their draft positions

    Duncan overachieved despite going #1
    CP3 way overachieved and LOL at the Hawks in particular
    Teague overachieved, Howard overachieved, James Johnson about even, AFA - meh, Ish has carved out a nice career from free agency
    JJ and Aminu have both overachieved. They both have 8 figure contracts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by palmab03 View Post
    JJ and Aminu have both overachieved. They both have 8 figure contracts.
    well, yeah

    Aminu was the #8 pick in the draft, and should be reasonably expected to get that contract

    #9 that year was Paul George; #10 was Gordon Hayward for context

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    Feels like George has been out much longer than Hayward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy2016 View Post
    well, yeah

    Aminu was the #8 pick in the draft, and should be reasonably expected to get that contract

    #9 that year was Paul George; #10 was Gordon Hayward for context
    I'll give ya that. Looking back around 5 Drafts 2010-2015 at the 8-10 picks, Aminu is right smack in the middle of the pack
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    Quote Originally Posted by palmab03 View Post
    I'll give ya that. Looking back around 5 Drafts 2010-2015 at the 8-10 picks, Aminu is right smack in the middle of the pack
    The Aminu hate on here is weird. He’s a key role player and starter on a team that makes the playoffs every year. He’s a nice player.
    We're going to be good again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strickland33 View Post
    The Aminu hate on here is weird. He’s a key role player and starter on a team that makes the playoffs every year. He’s a nice player.
    I could not edit my post - I meant "meh" as he's on the low end of what should be expected out of where he was picked

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    Great John Collins Article

    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy2016 View Post
    I could not edit my post - I meant "meh" as he's on the low end of what should be expected out of where he was picked
    Nah. He’s as expected. There’s a whole lot of Frank Kaminskys drafted around there
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