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Grobe or Clawson, who ya got?

If Clawson gets a better job and leaves. That’s great. Let’s hire the next one and have this thread again in 5 years.
 
RJKarl said:
Grobe had 5 winning seasons and 8 losing ones. He had one excellent three year period due to hitting two years of recruiting.

Unless Calwson is 1000% in love with Wake, I doubt he'll be here for thirteen years. He may get a bigger offer this winter or next if he has another bowl win. With the new ESPN contract we can give him a significant raise. The question is if he wants a new challenge.
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Clawson is a highly competitive guy who will leave for the right opportunity at a larger Power 5 school that gives him an easier recruiting base ( lower academic standards --likely a state school) and allows him the chance to compete for a national championship. However, it will take more than 6-6 or 7-5 type years to get that kind of offer. He'll need to string together pre bowl 9-3, 8-4 type years-- if he does ,we'll likely know that he will move on, and be happy for him. The kids still in school thing is overblown-- coaches and their wives know they will likely move around in that profession.
 
TexasDeac1 said:
Clawson is a highly competitive guy who will leave for the right opportunity at a larger Power 5 school that gives him an easier recruiting base ( lower academic standards --likely a state school) and allows him the chance to compete for a national championship. However, it will take more than 6-6 or 7-5 type years to get that kind of offer. He'll need to string together pre bowl 9-3, 8-4 type years-- if he does ,we'll likely know that he will move on, and be happy for him. The kids still in school thing is overblown-- coaches and their wives know they will likely move around in that profession.
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I do not agree with this when it comes to Clawson.
 
Until Clawson wins an ACC Championship - it's Grobe. If you disagree, you just don't understand what that man did for us.
 
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This. Good times!

Clawson is on his way. Just brutal ACC Atlantic though.
 
No idea if Claws would leave for a better gig. He certainly has in the past. What is clear is he loves coaching at wake forest.
 
Arsene Wenger said:
WFU: Where fans constantly fret about coaches leaving for better jobs even though it never happens.
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We would have been better with Grobe going to Arkansas. Bring in fresh energy to the recruiting trail coming off the OB success.
 
booradley said:
Until Clawson wins an ACC Championship - it's Grobe. If you disagree, you just don't understand what that man did for us.
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We all disagree and we all know what Grobe did for us but much less competitive ACC back then so Clawson over Grobe no doubt
 
People under value the fact Clawson is a Williams graduate. He went to a better College than you did. His father said "Dave wanted to go to the best academic school he could get into and still play football." Add to that how he got burned at one of the football factories,Tennessee. It's highly unusual to have a coach here whose recruiting philosophy aligns with exactly what his father said. Clawson constantly refers to himself about Wake players. " The kids we get love football and want to go to a strong academic school like Wake." Clawson follows his North Star.
 
macktheknife said:
People under value the fact Clawson is a Williams graduate. He went to a better College than you did. His father said "Dave wanted to go to the best academic school he could get into and still play football." Add to that how he got burned at one of the football factories,Tennessee. It's highly unusual to have a coach here whose recruiting philosophy aligns with exactly what his father said. Clawson constantly refers to himself about Wake players. " The kids we get love football and want to go to a strong academic school like Wake." Clawson follows his North Star.
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Meh. I think the rhetoric about players is less idealism and more pragmatism. The single best thing about Clawson as a HC is that he has a clear plan. He laid it out on day 1. He wants to use Wake’s unique strengths - small school, good academics, P5 football. He also recruits where Wake is already recruiting students. If Wake appeals to kids from certain areas at a higher rate, then that probably can apply to football players. He also heavily recruits where kids can drive to campus for unofficial visits. The man is calculated, and that’s great. Not everything has to be sentimental.
 
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