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Republicans Shut Down the Federal Government Again & Suffer Humiliating Defeat

Does being furloughed even qualify for unemployment? I thought I read the employees get back pay on here (I have no idea if that’s true). Is it basically a free vacation or are these people straight fucked outta cash?

Back pay for pay lost during a federal government shutdown is not guaranteed for most employees, congress has to vote on that. The employees would be required to pay the unemployment checks back if congress voted to give back pay.

Sure it’s likely like a “paid vacation” but they don’t actually get a pay check until the Department of Treasury opens back up again because there is no one there to track time sheets and sign off on the pay checks etc. In the meantime bills and mortgage statements etc. keep coming. It’s been 14 days already and the rhetoric indicates that this could go on for weeks longer, so of course families where federal payroll is the only source of income are getting nervous. What else are they going to do? Break in to their IRAs? Sell plasma?
 
Traditionally, Congress votes for the Federal Employees to receive back pay, but it's not guaranteed and it wouldn't surprise me if Congress eventually refuses to do it someday. Federal contractors and partner organizations that close don't get back pay from a shutdown.

Thanks. How many employees of federal contractors and partner organizations get fucked do ya figure in number of people?
 
Back pay for pay lost during a federal government shutdown is not guaranteed for most employees, congress has to vote on that. The employees would be required to pay the unemployment checks back if congress voted to give back pay.

Sure it’s likely like a “paid vacation” but they don’t actually get a pay check until the Department of Treasury opens back up again because there is no one there to track time sheets and sign off on the pay checks etc. In the meantime bills and mortgage statements etc. keep coming. It’s been 14 days already and the rhetoric indicates that this could go on for weeks longer, so of course families where federal payroll is the only source of income are getting nervous. What else are they going to do? Break in to their IRAs? Sell plasma?

Yeah, too many people live paycheck to paycheck which is indicative of a larger problem
 
Thanks. How many employees of federal contractors and partner organizations get fucked do ya figure in number of people?

I don't have the numbers on those. It would pretty easily be tens of thousands maybe more.

Anecdotally, I know a small NPS Museum that is operated by two different partner groups in the winter. They attempted to keep the museum open during the shutdown without NPS employees. But their water system failed and all the maintenance staff have been sent home because of the shutdown, so there is no one to fix it. So the employees of both organizations will now go without pay with no hope of reimbursement for the duration of the shutdown.
 
Jesus Christ.

What a dumbass.

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Given that it was the 3rd and she was sworn in that day Im thinking there hadn't been time yet.
 
Look at meeeee!

If she wants to actually do something about this, she should introduce a bil providing that members of Congress don’t get paid during shutdowns.

Wouldn't it be a bigger look at meeee moment to introduce legislation that definitely won't pass?
 
Wouldn't it be a bigger look at meeee moment to introduce legislation that definitely won't pass?

Only if a Democrat actually proposed it. Then the talking point would be “why don’t you donate your salary”. You can see the arguments about voluntarily paying more taxes that are sure to emerge once the democratic primary gets going.
 
This moronic Trump shutdown will become extremely real for 50-100 million Americans in early February when SNAP runs out of money. It's not just the 45+M who get food stamps that it would impact. If those 45M people only average $30/week in food stamps, that means a minimum of $1.35Billion in grocery sales per week will be lost. Farmers will lose money and have to lay off people. Truckers won't have products to deliver. People who work at grocery stores will have their hours cut.

What am I thinking? Starving a few million people of color won't bother Trump. They didn't vote for him. But will starving white kids in WV, AL, GA have any impact? Nah...
 
This moronic Trump shutdown will become extremely real for 50-100 million Americans in early February when SNAP runs out of money. It's not just the 45+M who get food stamps that it would impact. If those 45M people only average $30/week in food stamps, that means a minimum of $1.35Billion in grocery sales per week will be lost. Farmers will lose money and have to lay off people. Truckers won't have products to deliver. People who work at grocery stores will have their hours cut.

What am I thinking? Starving a few million people of color won't bother Trump.They didn't vote for him. But will starving white kids in WV, AL, GA have any impact? Nah...

Good points, but you could have ended it before the bold statement and it would have sounded less like a crazy old man.
 
Likewise, they have no problem hearing that those mooches getting SSI and Medicaid will have to suck it up for a while. Until the bill comes from Shady Pines Nursing Home and Grandma's Medicaid is nowhere to be found.

What makes you so sure of that?

The history of the Republican Party in general and Mitch McConnell specifically?

You are smarter than this. Not sure why you choose to play dumb now.
 
Way to go hammering that letter junebug. Meanwhile on the same page of the thread the President and Republican House leadership say really stupid things that show they don’t know what the govt is. Guess that’s all fine huh.
 
This all could’ve been avoided if you just give the president everything he wants.
 
Fair enough, but she could have put in her grandstanding letter that she was going to introduce the legislation.

Which would have been even more grandstanding.
 
Only if a Democrat actually proposed it. Then the talking point would be “why don’t you donate your salary”. You can see the arguments about voluntarily paying more taxes that are sure to emerge once the democratic primary gets going.

Yup
 
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