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How long was Marvin Lewis at Cincy? How many playoff games did he win? Canning the Cards coach after one year does seem quick.
To many black players on college basketball teams....A Concern???????:bowrofl:
I’m not that worried because things are trending in the right direction overall.
The analysis on black coaches has been that they’re getting hired more but get hired into bad situations and get fired too early.
We can look at history and see that’s true. Tony Dungy got fired after making the playoffs five straight years with the freaking Bucs but not advancing in three years. Obviously the Bucs won the SB next year under Gruden led by the defense he constructed (and the Tampa 2 is still a popular defense around the league even as offenses have evolved). Dungy went on to win two SBs in Indy. Bucs fans still regret firing Dungy. He coached for six seasons 18 years ago and he still lives in Tampa. He’s the most beloved person in the area.
Caldwell has the highest winning percentage in modern Lions history. Only coach since 72 to finish his stint with a winning record.
Art Shell with the Raiders is another example.
This year there were 5 rookie QBs. Two started from Game 1, the other three eventually started. When you start a rookie QB (often with pressure from the front office or complete lack of other options) it’s an admission you’re willing to take some bumps for a long term benefit. Three of those coaches were black and all three got fired (Jackson, Bowles, and Wilks).
I don’t think Hue Jackson got a raw deal but Bowles did pretty well for the Jets and Wilks never got a chance.
Much easier to do if you have good players who are healthy. Wilks, in particular, didn't have that in the desert.
I will be surprised if Marvin Lewis successor does better than Lewis did in Cinci. Owner there is known for doing everything on the cheap.
I’m not that worried because things are trending in the right direction overall.
The analysis on black coaches has been that they’re getting hired more but get hired into bad situations and get fired too early.
We can look at history and see that’s true. Tony Dungy got fired after making the playoffs five straight years with the freaking Bucs but not advancing in three years. Obviously the Bucs won the SB next year under Gruden led by the defense he constructed (and the Tampa 2 is still a popular defense around the league even as offenses have evolved). Dungy went on to win two SBs in Indy. Bucs fans still regret firing Dungy. He coached for six seasons 18 years ago and he still lives in Tampa. He’s the most beloved person in the area.
Caldwell has the highest winning percentage in modern Lions history. Only coach since 72 to finish his stint with a winning record.
Art Shell with the Raiders is another example.
This year there were 5 rookie QBs. Two started from Game 1, the other three eventually started. When you start a rookie QB (often with pressure from the front office or complete lack of other options) it’s an admission you’re willing to take some bumps for a long term benefit. Three of those coaches were black and all three got fired (Jackson, Bowles, and Wilks).
I don’t think Hue Jackson got a raw deal but Bowles did pretty well for the Jets and Wilks never got a chance.
Cleveland’s record is also due to a OROY QB rounding into form. I don’t think much of Hue Jackson but I also don’t think the rest of the season is a huge indictment against him.