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Amazon a no go in NYC. AOC slams Bezos

I saw several articles that said 25,000 at an average of $100,000 per job. Either way, most of the higher paying jobs will go to people outside of the community and it will drive up costs for current residents.

Do you not think that 25,000 Amazon jobs will bring even more jobs to the area? I've read that they would avg at 125k at Amazon.

Not taxing 3 billion in year one to net 27 billion in tax revenue over 20+ years in short sighted.

NYC needs to diversify its tax base away from wall street and real estate. Setting the city up as a tech corridor in the northeast made a lot of sense.

Now we can still run deficits, have shitty infrastructure and public schools, have homeless living in subways and the streets, and spend billions each year on homeless housing. Things don't need to change at all.....
 
How is Amazon going to change shitty infrastructure and public schools anymore than Wall Street and real estate?

And again, why didn't Amazon sit down at the table to address concerns about their presence? Seems like people are saying they shouldn't care about local residents.
 
Do you not think that 25,000 Amazon jobs will bring even more jobs to the area? I've read that they would avg at 125k at Amazon.

Not taxing 3 billion in year one to net 27 billion in tax revenue over 20+ years in short sighted.

NYC needs to diversify its tax base away from wall street and real estate. Setting the city up as a tech corridor in the northeast made a lot of sense.

Now we can still run deficits, have shitty infrastructure and public schools, have homeless living in subways and the streets, and spend billions each year on homeless housing. Things don't need to change at all.....

You can still grow a tech corridor without massive, market distorting bribes to Amazon. Hell, tiny companies like Google and Apple recently agreed to huge expansions there without the tax subsidies. It's not at all clear it would positive at all for the economy, let alone net 27 billion. Not when you take into account the increase in costs, demand for public services, housing prices, etc.
 
How is Amazon going to change shitty infrastructure and public schools anymore than Wall Street and real estate?

And again, why didn't Amazon sit down at the table to address concerns about their presence? Seems like people are saying they shouldn't care about local residents.

I don't know, the city will actually have the money to fix it?

The lead opponent, state senate Gianaris refused to even meet with amazon according to the post.
 

But based on the study, the advantages may not have been as great at Cuomo made it seem. Inflation would have taken a bite out of the value of the future tax dollars generated by HQ2 — put another way, $1 in tax revenue in 25 years would not be worth as much as $1 of revenue in 2019.

Since much of the tax revenue would be realized later in the 25-year timeframe, the study estimated that HQ2 would bring in just under $9 billion in state tax revenue in 2019 dollars, versus the promised $1.4 billion in state tax incentives. The report concluded that "the benefit-cost ratio is 6.3," well below Cuomo's promised 9:1 ratio.

Critics of the study also pointed out that the estimates were based on the idea that Amazon would bring in 40,000 jobs for its New York HQ2 over 15 years. Amazon had said when it announced it would split its second headquarters between Northern Virginia and New York that 25,000 jobs would come to each over the first 10 years; it said an additional 15,000 jobs could come to Queens in the five years after the initial wave but made no firm commitment.

Some experts said that the study also did not consider the alternatives for the area where Amazon would put HQ2 and that recent studies had found that investing in existing local businesses could be more economically stimulative than wooing new corporations.

On top of that, the study did not account for the worker influx creating liabilities for the city, such as increased trash collection and education costs. Critics also pointed to other externalities they said would make HQ2 less attractive for New York City residents.

As all the meta studies show, corporate welfare rarely pays off and comes at an opportunity cost
 
(R) John Kennedy

“I am not hysterical about the wall.What does get me is some wacky Left politicians pissing away 25,000 jobs”
 
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How is Amazon going to change shitty infrastructure and public schools anymore than Wall Street and real estate?

And again, why didn't Amazon sit down at the table to address concerns about their presence? Seems like people are saying they shouldn't care about local residents.

Neat how you really dig in..not like some detached intellectual sequestered amid the ivy covered walls of academia.

The Gloss on the Mill —
 
If you dig you may find a few State senators who were afraid of losing some Union control in the city.

Look,this may work out well for all of us..Right and Left.

I don’t want to see more corporate welfare.I don’t like that Amazon gets special treatment from the USPS.I don’t like that Amazon hasn’t paid taxes in two years with a CEO worth $130 B (pre-divorce)

Trump,who you hate with all your hearts,I understand,is nevertheless a figure very similiar to TR in his position on anti-trust.
Here we sit around 100 years out from TR taking on the Railroad barons (communications) and Standard Oil.

Now we have a concentration of communication companies. An Oligopoly by definition.FAANG.We need anti-trust legislation and perhaps Lefties and Righties could find a place to join together and voice concerns that are not mutually exclusive.

A shot in the dark
 
Lol. The Progressive Movement in this country is so clueless. Sadly Republicans have nothing to worry about because as bad as they say screw it up they'll be handed the keys of power again.

It’s been the dem party all along

Their trump derangement syndrome caused them to say fuck it and show their true colors

That’s ok. At least the Dems are finally being honest about their intentions, intentions that must really concern old school moderates democrats like, say, RJK
 
Still interested in LK or chrisL or somebody who was all “leftists are dumb” to address the data about corporate welfare.
 
Surely ChrisL has some wonky numbers to wow us with.
 
I'd like to see the median salary rather than then average salary for those employees.
 
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