Don't really disagree too much with the analysis, but #5-7 in the ACC is still a realllllly good gig. You're almost always looking at a top 6 seed in the dance if you finish in that range
Sure, I'd love that. My point was a tad more sophisticated than that deep analysis. Becoming a "blue blood" program takes decades. So my point is simply that as a "program" we should be the best of the rest. And that status puts us in a position, like in the 90's and early 2000's, to compete with those big guys. That's reasonable. Your response is akin to a group folks on here who actually think someone like Brad Stevens is coming to Wake...FYI, he ain't. And FYI, no matter who we hire it'll take more than one hire to have a better program than Duke. That's kind of obvious...so I thought.
If you want to talk about the steps to becoming a blue blood program, and how many coaches you think it will take us to get there, I’m all about having that conversation (being the #5-7 program isn’t the first step btw). “Rightful place” sounds like an end destination though, so that’s what I took umbrage with.
Wake’s rightful place is with one foot on Duke’s throat and the other on UNC’s.
Your boy DManning had us AHEAD OF SCHEDULE to get there too!!!!
If over the next 25 years we end up as the 5th best program in the ACC, sign me up. I'd love to crack the blue blood ranks, it just ain't likely to happen. Florida isn't a blue blood and never will be Kentucky. But that's OK, they won multiple national championships. When you're in a league with 3 or 4 blue bloods ahead of you, settling in as the 5th best program is awesome...and a reasonable goal for us. UVA is in that situation and I'd love to be doing what they're doing.
It seems you’ve missed the boat on Manning, but maybe you’ll go on record with your expectations for our next coach.
Says the guy who lost the bet and thus has to leave the boards. You must have a split persona or something, and neither half knows what the other has posted.
Yeah so I’ll stick with my initial assessment. Fuck that. I really hope Currie doesn’t share that mindset.
His argument has been consistent. He has the highest of high standards for Wake Forest. Higher than anyone else here. Which is why he argued that we needed to give Manning more time. It makes complete sense to the bipolar amongst us.
Curious what you think about the job Clawson is doing? I mean, fuck that...three straight bowl games are great, but until we compete with Clemson...fuck that.
From the end of year 4 poll thread.You keep saying this. I never have.
There are always worse coaches available too. Like it or not Manning seems about average with high variability due to an overdependence on talent. I doubt he’s the guy that will bring a Natty to Wake but that doesn’t mean he should be fired. I don’t think there are nearly as many above average coaches available to Wake out there and certainly very few capable of getting us to where we ultimately want to go.
From the end of year 4 poll thread.
Oops.
It’s almost like I didn’t think our AD at the time could find anyone better. Maybe I should have posted that another hundred times to make sure everyone saw it. My mistake.
You specifically said he shouldn’t be fired.