thatguy2016
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who was the hoops team S&C coach when Dave Odom went to 7 straight NCAAs, or when he and Prosser went to 12 of 15?
who cared?
who cared?
Similar to Manning he is just another person on the staff who overestimates his abilities. No growth from anyone on the staff, no growth from the majority of players that actually do stick around this dumpster fire.
If Horn was so good at his job getting players in shape why could Junior year Doral Moore barely run up and down the floor a full game, why did Dinos gain so much muscle after he went pro in Greece, and why did Sarr not make a big jump going into Sophomore year physically? The majority of weight Sarr "gained" during his exaggerated bulk up last summer was body fat, which he lost pretty quickly and showed no real gains last year.
The only player who bulked up each year is Chaundee, and if you stand next to him for 30 seconds you can tell he is a genetic freak. I can tell you from personal experience that when Dinos was in the gym after his freshman season working out with Wilbekin, Dinos MAX on the bench was 165. That's less than his body weight, after a year with Horn. His passion for the kids and the program is what kept him from being criticized sooner.
This is so wrong. Kevin Durant couldn't bench press 185 at the combine once after his freshman year. Who cares. He's still one of the greatest basketball players ever. Dinos bulked up significantly by his JR year. Sarr was really coming around by the mid-part of Soph year before he was injured. Big guys sometimes have to grow into their bodies. You don't show up one summer and just start throwing up huge weight numbers, not unless you're a genetic freak or you're doing something unnatural.
while racer and netflix sound like idiots, you honestly just mentioned Kevin Durant and Olivier Sarr in the same sentence
never change
This is so wrong. Kevin Durant couldn't bench press 185 at the combine once after his freshman year. Who cares. He's still one of the greatest basketball players ever. Dinos bulked up significantly by his JR year. Sarr was really coming around by the mid-part of Soph year before he was injured. Big guys sometimes have to grow into their bodies. You don't show up one summer and just start throwing up huge weight numbers, not unless you're a genetic freak or you're doing something unnatural.
I agree with this. Have no idea if Horn is the best or worst strength and conditioning coach in college basketball, but basketball players aren't trained like defensive tackles.
This is Steph Curry at Davidson:
Did it matter that he probably couldn't bench 100? He was the most prolific scorer in college hoop. Then went on to lead his team to multiple NBA titles, while never significantly changing his body type.
I get that the WF basketball program sucks right now; so, the natural assumption is that anything and everything associated with the program, including the strength and conditioning aspect, is pathetic. Everyone expects another abysmal year, but at least it appears that those in the program are trying to get better. Have no problem with that.
I agree with this. Have no idea if Horn is the best or worst strength and conditioning coach in college basketball, but basketball players aren't trained like defensive tackles.
This is Steph Curry at Davidson:
Did it matter that he probably couldn't bench 100? He was the most prolific scorer in college hoop. Then went on to lead his team to multiple NBA titles, while never significantly changing his body type.
I get that the WF basketball program sucks right now; so, the natural assumption is that anything and everything associated with the program, including the strength and conditioning aspect, is pathetic. Everyone expects another abysmal year, but at least it appears that those in the program are trying to get better. Have no problem with that.
This is so wrong. Kevin Durant couldn't bench press 185 at the combine once after his freshman year. Who cares. He's still one of the greatest basketball players ever. Dinos bulked up significantly by his JR year. Sarr was really coming around by the mid-part of Soph year before he was injured. Big guys sometimes have to grow into their bodies. You don't show up one summer and just start throwing up huge weight numbers, not unless you're a genetic freak or you're doing something unnatural.
People definitely cared about it when Clawson commented on how surprised he was with how weak our players were when he first took over.The only three times I remember fans caring about strength coaches is Horn now, under Caldwell when we weren’t fast and puked too much, and Reff’s weird spat about Grobe’s S&C program post-Seattle Bowl based on what he heard from the Orlebar twins.
Would anyone care about the strength coach if we were winning?
Of the top of your head, name Clawson’s strength coach. You probably can’t. He’s been here as long as Horn. He just doesn’t have a standout beard and cheers like a mad man when we are down 20.
This all comes from Horn's progress reports about how great our players are transforming every summer and ready to attack next season. Its all bullshit, like everything else from this staff and the one before it.
Of the top of your head, name Clawson’s strength coach. You probably can’t. He’s been here as long as Horn. He just doesn’t have a standout beard and cheers like a mad man when we are down 20.