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Trump Rallying cry -Send Her back

A feckless party afraid to impeach Trump is going to have a hard time generating turnout.
 
Deacon923 said:
This whole episode is the entirely predictable outcome of at least 30 years' worth of Republicans, and their media supporters, calling anyone who doesn't support endless wars and endless tax cuts for the rich "un-American". Pretty easy to graft that onto the strong strain of racism and white supremacy lurking in the Republican party, and here we are.
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Yep. Add pro life.

Racism isn’t lurking anymore in the GOP. It’s out there in the open at this point.
 
As a legal strategy, do prosecutors seek indictment for cases they know they will lose?
 
DG3 said:
Dude, what are you talking about? I'm making fun of ECU. Sit this one out.
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Meh, you weren’t clear. Glad to hear you think that arena was filled with rubes too.
 
ConnorEl said:
As a legal strategy, do prosecutors seek indictment for cases they know they will lose?
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Bad analogy. This is more like a situation where a prosecutor has slam dunk evidence but knows that the jury that has been pre-selected are all buddies with the accused and will never convict.

Regardless, being against impeachment because you know the Senate won’t convict and you’re scared of Trump is as spineless a position as you could possibly take.
 
AsesinoDeTortugas said:
Bad analogy. This is more like a situation where a prosecutor has slam dunk evidence but knows that the jury that has been pre-selected are all buddies with the accused and will never convict.

Regardless, being against impeachment because you know the Senate won’t convict and you’re scared of Trump is as spineless a position as you could possibly take.
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Right. Pelosi is literally allowing the Republicans to own the libs.
 
I thought the house impeachment as indictment and senate trial as, well, trial were intended analogs.


So I’m asking if there’s a legal rationale to proceed with indictment when you know you will lose your legal case?

Seems the argument to impeach is more a political impulse than legal rationale at this point.
 
ConnorEl said:
As a legal strategy, do prosecutors seek indictment for cases they know they will lose?
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Impeachment isn't a legal process, it's a political process. Politicians introduce bills or ideas that they know won't pass all the time, because they are trying to make a point about something, or they are trying to advance the political process.
 
Shooshmoo said:
OK, but that process is shit and resulted in the popular vote winner by a wide margin losing the election. Relying on that alone is not wise.
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The electoral process is way more likely to cause Trump's removal than congressional impeachment and removal efforts.
 
Ball State Deac said:
The electoral process is way more likely to cause Trump's removal than congressional impeachment and removal efforts.
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Sure. Are you saying the election will be cancelled if the Dems impeach?
 
I thought impeachment is the primary legal remedy for (not only) a bad acting POTUS committing high crimes and misdemeanors.

How can it not be a legal process?

Of course it’s also political. That’s my point.
 
PhDeac said:
Sure. Are you saying the election will be cancelled if the Dems impeach?
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Huh? No need to be obtuse. I was responding to a comment that we shouldn’t only rely on the electoral process to get trump out of office, but as of now, it is the only viable process.
 
Ball State Deac said:
Huh? No need to be obtuse. I was responding to a comment that we shouldn’t only rely on the electoral process to get trump out of office, but as of now, it is the only viable process.
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Who’s to say that Trump will give up the office if he loses the election. That’s not a certainty at this point. Dems are evil America hating socialists, we can’t allow them to take our country away, etc. etc.
 
How big of a fuckhead do you have to be to: (1) go to a Trump rally in the first place, and (2) chant "send them back"???
 
birdman said:
You cannot be serious including NPR in with MSNBC?
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Some worse than others, but in the last week I’ve heard NPR have on a white guy saying he gets upset when he hears indigenous people speak ill of Captain Cook, without getting an indigenous perspective. They did an interview with a CBP official, asked him “what’s the biggest misconception about CBP?” and then let him go unchallenged saying CBP agents are the first to take money out of their pocket to buy toothbrushes for kids. Yesterday they were running a propaganda piece for the military industrial complex. So yeah...
 
I don't understand this trying to play chess against Trump and the GOP like...trying to see 5 moves ahead to what will or won't help Trump's chances in 2020. The dude isn't thinking about the next word coming out of his mouth when he's speaking, much less making calculated judgments about what will and won't keep him electable. Yet the Dems are convinced they have to strategize and play game theory instead of just doing the god damn right thing. The coward label that has been applied to Dems for decades has never been as easily demonstrated as it is right now.
 
Ball State Deac said:
Huh? No need to be obtuse. I was responding to a comment that we shouldn’t only rely on the electoral process to get trump out of office, but as of now, it is the only viable process.
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I was being sarcastic. I think you Shoo was saying that impeachment should help the electoral process.
 
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