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Donald Impeachment

ImTheCaptain said:
you think the women's march riled up trump's base?
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Idk about that, but have a large scale, coordinated protest within a week or so of the election and it will. At that point, it's not even deniable to the Trump base that it's anything other than an anti-Trump/pro-Dem rally. To be clear, that's totally cool, but it's def gonna further galvanize the Republicans at a critical time.
 
ImTheCaptain said:
you think the women's march riled up trump's base?
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No, not really. They were pleased that they had pissed off so many women. And the march was orderly and didn't turn ugly. If these marches get ugly, I agree with DG3 that they'll have the opposite effect and rebound against you. We want to convince never Trumper Pubs and independents that it's the Trump folks who have no respect for the law, not folks on the left. Ugly protests that end up with a bunch of arrests, or even worse, in riots, would help Trump. Think 1968 and see who won. That's why I could see large marches having the potential to go either direction.
 
Republican and even some Democratic pundits and talking heads have warned incessantly since January 2017 about the great dangers of riling up Trump's base. The narrative seems to be that if the Democrats do anything that upsets Trump's base, they'll turn out in droves in 2020 and crush the Democrats. The problem with that narrative is that the 2016 election was actually razor-close, Hillary still won the national popular vote by three million against that "invincible" base, and a switch of less than 100,000 votes in three states would have reversed the outcome. In 2018 Trump's base was supposedly all riled up by the Kavanaugh hearings, and yet the Democrats still gained 40 seats in the House and won the national popular vote by something like 9 percentage points, as well as picking up seven governorships.

As several others have pointed out, I don't know what more can be done to fire up Trump's base. They're going to turn out again in big numbers as in 2016. Yet I don't see him picking up many, if any, new voters. He's only governed to his base and has gone out of his way to alienate just about everyone else. He could still definitely win if his Democratic opponent can successfully be framed as too far-left or "socialist!", but I don't think that Trump's base is invincible if angered or frightened (they're always angry and frightened, btw). Democrats shouldn't make decisions based on what may or may not piss off the GOP base. They need to get their own people out to vote, and that's the key to victory, imo.
 
DeaconSig said:
Why would these marches turn violent when none of them did in 2017?
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They wouldn't necessarily at all. But let's say you get a bunch of counter protesters, and say the cops do a crappy job of keeping the 2 groups separated. Could happen. I'm just saying don't assume a bunch of marches are necessarily going to have a positive effect on the election.
 
meh fuck the Trump base, fuck appeasing them and never-Trump republicans. Run on what you believe is right, run a clean campaign and do your best to get max voter turn-out, and win if you win and lose if you lose. :noidea: I'd rather push for the right thing for the country and lose again to these morons than bend too far for them just to win and get no real change like under Obama. fuck it
 
ImTheCaptain said:
to be fair, that was a White Nationalist march, not a leftist march.
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I realized that before I posted it, but I don't think it would really matter in the upcoming election cycle if Trump is the central focus of the march/protest, counterprotestors are going to turn out. I'll be surprsed if we make it through election day and the inauguration without something more than token violence.
 
BiffTannen said:
I realized that before I posted it, but I don't think it would really matter in the upcoming election cycle if Trump is the central focus of the march/protest, counterprotestors are going to turn out. I'll be surprsed if we make it through election day and the inauguration without something more than token violence.
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the only violence Token is going to be involved in is making his friends get some Detroit-style pizza
 
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if Republican leaders do turn on Trump, my gut says it will happen very fast and not gradually
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
if Republican leaders do turn on Trump, my gut says it will happen very fast and not gradually
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And good chance it's for a reason that's not nearly as major is the Mueller Report or the Ukraine scandal or campaign finance violations, but Republicans will feel very justified.
 
The fact that he sticks with a cotton candy combover shows a tremendous lack of judgment - impeachable.
 
cville deac said:
No, not really. They were pleased that they had pissed off so many women. And the march was orderly and didn't turn ugly. If these marches get ugly, I agree with DG3 that they'll have the opposite effect and rebound against you. We want to convince never Trumper Pubs and independents that it's the Trump folks who have no respect for the law, not folks on the left. Ugly protests that end up with a bunch of arrests, or even worse, in riots, would help Trump. Think 1968 and see who won. That's why I could see large marches having the potential to go either direction.
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WE democrats don't want anything to do with never Trump pubs. I don't know what you want to do.
 
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