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Taggart just got canned and starts the Coaching Carousel early

Clawson would be crazy to leave right now. Recruiting for him in NC will never be easier. Doeren on the hottest of seats. Duke's Grandpa seat getting hot. Grandpa Brown makes a bowl thanks to one play by Duke with 4 top 30 recruiting classes on his bench. Add to that Boston College makes a bonehead move. FSU clown show. Syracuse shows no signs of a breakout. Soon he will have more tenure than anyone but Dabo, whose top flight assistants will be poached. It's all going Clawson's way.

I agree with this for the most part. Sure there were a couple of games we should have one and maybe one or two we should have lost but program has never been in better shape at present and for near future. Clawson is still highly motivated at this point. Also even if he were to leave, why go SEC to one of the bottom dwellers? Big 10 would be a better option.
 
Norvell to FSU - expect announcement after AAC championship game
 
Colorado State negotiated a much lower payout then the guaranteed amount in the contract. Does Wake know you can do that?
 
Colorado State negotiated a much lower payout then the guaranteed amount in the contract. Does Wake know you can do that?

Do you know any reasons for him accepting less than the original contract buyout amount?
 
Do you know any reasons for him accepting less than the original contract buyout amount?

As someone else pointed out, there can be agreements regarding timing or other issues that impact it ($10M lump sum instead of $15M over 10 years, etc). There can also be issues with regards to requirements on the coach to remain eligible for the payments on his buyout. Disclaimer that I've never dealt with coaching contracts before, but they are similar to many executive contracts that the buyout/golden parachute has an offset clause that (1) requires the coach to make good faith efforts at finding a new job and (2) reduces the buyout by whatever amount you are getting paid at a new job if you get a new job. If a coach negotiates the buyout down, they essentially agree to take a smaller amount but the agreement to reduce the amount if they take another job goes away. Win/Win for both sides. The coach gets a guaranteed amount of money and the ability to possibly land a windfall if they get another high-paying job and the school gets at least some of the liability off its books. If I recall correctly (and I am not going back to look it up), there was some laughter at Notre Dame a while back for not having a clause to that effect in Charlie Weis's contract which allowed him to get his full buyout from ND while coaching Kansas (and then his full buyout from Kansas, but that's another story).

In our case, Manning has no incentive to negotiate his number down because the likelihood of him getting another job is pretty much nil.

ETA: I did go back and look -- ND definitely omitted the offset clause from Charlie Weis's contract, which resulted in them paying him the full $19M he was owed while he was getting paid to be the KC Chiefs OC in 2010 and the Kansas Head Coach from 2011-2015.
 
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As someone else pointed out, there can be agreements regarding timing or other issues that impact it ($10M lump sum instead of $15M over 10 years, etc). There can also be issues with regards to requirements on the coach to remain eligible for the payments on his buyout. Disclaimer that I've never dealt with coaching contracts before, but they are similar to many executive contracts that the buyout/golden parachute has a clause that (1) requires the coach to make good faith efforts at finding a new job and (2) reduces the buyout by whatever amount you are getting paid at a new job if you get a new job. If a coach negotiates the buyout down, they essentially agree to take a smaller amount but the agreement to reduce the amount if they take another job goes away. Win/Win for both sides. The coach gets a guaranteed amount of money and the ability to possibly land a windfall if they get another high-paying job and the school gets at least some of the liability off its books. If I recall correctly (and I am not going back to look it up), there was some laughter at Notre Dame a while back for not having a clause to that effect in Charlie Weis's contract which allowed him to get his full buyout from ND while coaching Kansas (and then his full buyout from Kansas, but that's another story).

In our case, Manning has no incentive to negotiate his number down because the likelihood of him getting another job is pretty much nil.

Also there is no knowledge about offset or due diligence at finding another job clauses in Manning's contract.

So once again, it is unlikely Wake has leverage to reduce Manning's buyout other than through attrition.
 
So, Nathan Hatch was at Notre Dame when they whiffed on Charlie Weis's contract and at Wake when we presumably whiffed on Manning's. Coincidence?
 
Do you know any reasons for him accepting less than the original contract buyout amount?

Actually yes. Bobo would have been fired a year ago, but he had some serious health issues ( nerve damage in legs- he still limps) , that would have looked terrible on the university if they had canned him. He knows he got a freebie extra year, and he also knows that he will get a good offer to be An OC — several schools are rumored to be looking at him, so the timing works.
 
Actually yes. Bobo would have been fired a year ago, but he had some serious health issues ( nerve damage in legs- he still limps) , that would have looked terrible on the university if they had canned him. He knows he got a freebie extra year, and he also knows that he will get a good offer to be An OC — several schools are rumored to be looking at him, so the timing works.

He's one of the few coaches qualified to install the dynamic Mark Richt offense.
 
Actually yes. Bobo would have been fired a year ago, but he had some serious health issues ( nerve damage in legs- he still limps) , that would have looked terrible on the university if they had canned him. He knows he got a freebie extra year, and he also knows that he will get a good offer to be An OC — several schools are rumored to be looking at him, so the timing works.

Edited to add that Bobo is known to be a really quality, good guy— not an indifferent, arrogant ( Dan Collins words , not mine) ass like Manning.
 
So, Nathan Hatch was at Notre Dame when they whiffed on Charlie Weis's contract and at Wake when we presumably whiffed on Manning's. Coincidence?

smart people are supposed to learn from mistakes
 
Also there is no knowledge about offset or due diligence at finding another job clauses in Manning's contract.

So once again, it is unlikely Wake has leverage to reduce Manning's buyout other than through attrition.

Just because the contract is not public doesn’t mean those clauses don’t exist. Those clauses are very standard in contracts for head coaches and it would be highly unusual for those clauses to not be included.
 
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