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KP Report - Georgia Tech - Wednesday 7 pm RSN

saltydeac said:
Danny's post game drivel always brings to mind the quote "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt".....
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Why is Brandon taking the blame for the loss? Is he that brainwashed by Manning he's trying to shield him? How in the crap is a team supposed to get up for every game when their coach barely has a pulse and the season is a lost cause.
 
Duncan sat a few feet behind DM. I wonder if he learned any valuable coaching lessons that he could take back with him to the Spurs.
 
After every game it seems like we hear "we need to do a better job (insert something that Wake has been terrible at during Manning's entire tenure)". Yeah, you do need to do a better job of whatever, but it's obvious by now that you're not going to.
 
liveanddiedeac said:
Why is Brandon taking the blame for the loss? Is he that brainwashed by Manning he's trying to shield him? How in the crap is a team supposed to get up for every game when their coach barely has a pulse and the season is a lost cause.
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I mean, not sure if you want a serious answer, but obviously that's not how any player would view it. I'm sure Brandon feels that he and his teammates should be able to play well and win games regardless of what Manning or anyone else does, and I'm sure he's disappointed and frustrated with himself when that doesn't happen. I can't imagine they view something they've put so much work into as a "lost cause". Also, I think most players tend to underrate the impact of coaching and put most things on themselves as far as how games turn out, for good or bad.

As an aside, Brandon and the rest of our guys repeatedly taking ownership for losses is one of the hardest parts to watch of all this for me. From our point of view its clear that a lot of the things going wrong are primarily not their fault, but I doubt they are able to see it that way and instead are probably extremely frustrated and hard on themselves. Regardless of how you feel about him as a player, by all accounts Brandon is a good teammate and leader, and for him to be in this situation of perennially losing with too much expected of him sucks.
 
Sirdeacsalot said:
Currie will totally lose the fanbase if he does not make a coaching change. The product on the court is pathetic. Not worth the cost to park your car even though tickets were $1.
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Fanbase is pretty well lost already, no? Winning will help, but that's going to be an issue for the next coach. Does a bland, but competent coach that competes for a tourney birth every other year or so ala Bruce Weber bring them back?
 
liveanddiedeac said:
Why is Brandon taking the blame for the loss? Is he that brainwashed by Manning he's trying to shield him? How in the crap is a team supposed to get up for every game when their coach barely has a pulse and the season is a lost cause.
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I'll give Brandon more of a pass on those comments after this particular game. It was a celebration of his father's greatest moments in basketball and the team mates his father played with. I'm sure he wanted to win this game more than some other games. And Brandon didn't play well.

Brandon still needs to realize he plays best when he works at facilitating others getting shots, like he did against u*NC. He will still gets his shot opportunities. Passes to his four team mates should be his first four thoughts.
 
DeacsATS said:
What is Childress talking about? Postseason? Dude, we are at the bottom of the ACC!
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He has struggled with accepting reality most of his time here. Always talking as if we're just one little piece from turning the corner and being a great team.
 
jaybone said:
I Our defense has been more intense and less bad this year.
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RacerDeac said:
Defense currently 110 with some tough games left to play.

Past years: 125, 128, 176, 130, 186

So, maybe a little bit better. Better than last year, sure. But not really significantly better than Manning's best D's of the past.
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And after that hammering by GT, giving up 86 points (second highest scoring total of the year for them), we are back down to 126, right where most of Manning's teams have been. Our D isn't improved, period.
 
daaberry said:
The players are probably fed the bullshit dream that every team is granted a chance to win a championship come March. Manning can tell them all about how his Tulsa team got hot at the right time, was able to put a few good games together and that got them into the big dance. I assume he leaves out the fact that those few good games are also the reason why he sits in front of them today, making their college basketball experience a miserable nightmare.
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This is certainly true because the entire coaching staff is known for their postseason success. Manning and Childress are particularly known for magical postseason runs. It's a delusional mindset. Manning was 27-28 at Tulsa before winning 8 straight against bad teams to end the regular season then winning the CUSA Tournament.

Since coming to Wake, Manning has only won more than 3 games in a row three times.
2015-16 - UCLA (Maui 3rd place), @Rutgers, Arkansas, UNCG, Coastal Carolina (Nov 25-Dec 18)
2016-17 - Pitt, #8 Louisville, @VT, BC (ACCT) (Feb 22-March 7)
2017-18 - UNCG, Illinois (ACC-Big Ten), Richmond, @UNCC, Army, @Coastal Carolina (Nov 24-Dec 18)

The idea that they're going to make a run is comical.
 
RacerDeac said:
And after that hammering by GT, giving up 86 points (second highest scoring total of the year for them), we are back down to 126, right where most of Manning's teams have been. Our D isn't improved, period.
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But Rex Walters is a defensive specialist!!! Send all these bums back to Kansas please.
 
I kept waiting for Manning to make an adjustment on defense as Alvarado and Devoe beat us one-on-one repeatedly driving the middle of the lane but, for 20 minutes in the second half Manning stubbornly refused to change defenses allowing a parade of layups, dunks and foul shots to keep Tech just barely ahead of our vaunted offense to ensure the defeat. Perhaps even a simple zone could have turned the tide but we'll never know. Teh dagger seemed to me to be the 3 pointer Wright makes with 1 second on the shot clock but, of course, we know those shots always go in Wake is involved. Both their bigs foul out and Mannequin can't and won't take advantage. The epitome of stupidity, of arrogance or insanity. A game we surely could have won but, without leadership the ship does what it almost always does, it sinks.
 
nvadeac said:
I kept waiting for Manning to make an adjustment on defense as Alvarado and Devoe beat us one-on-one repeatedly driving the middle of the lane but, for 20 minutes in the second half Manning stubbornly refused to change defenses allowing a parade of layups, dunks and foul shots to keep Tech just barely ahead of our vaunted offense to ensure the defeat. Perhaps even a simple zone could have turned the tide but we'll never know. Teh dagger seemed to me to be the 3 pointer Wright makes with 1 second on the shot clock but, of course, we know those shots always go in Wake is involved. Both their bigs foul out and Mannequin can't and won't take advantage. The epitome of stupidity, of arrogance or insanity. A game we surely could have won but, without leadership the ship does what it almost always does, it sinks.
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Good news is I still feel we are set up well to take last place all by ourselves. No doubt we lose out including losing to UNC @ their place and have high hopes UNC will take one between the Pack @ home or beating the Orange. Let's go Heels!
 
saltydeac said:
Good news is I still feel we are set up well to take last place all by ourselves. No doubt we lose out including losing to UNC @ their place and have high hopes UNC will take one between the Pack @ home or beating the Orange. Let's go Heels!
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If WF were to find a way to lose all four remaining games, UNC would not have to win any other game as they'd win the tiebreaker over WF in that instance (based on each team’s record vs. the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage). UNC would hold that advantage based on better win % vs either of ND or NCSU (or Cuse/UL if they beat them).
 
liveanddiedeac said:
Why is Brandon taking the blame for the loss? Is he that brainwashed by Manning he's trying to shield him? How in the crap is a team supposed to get up for every game when their coach barely has a pulse and the season is a lost cause.
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Trying to save his dad's job?
 
deacon14 said:
I mean, not sure if you want a serious answer, but obviously that's not how any player would view it. I'm sure Brandon feels that he and his teammates should be able to play well and win games regardless of what Manning or anyone else does, and I'm sure he's disappointed and frustrated with himself when that doesn't happen. I can't imagine they view something they've put so much work into as a "lost cause". Also, I think most players tend to underrate the impact of coaching and put most things on themselves as far as how games turn out, for good or bad.

As an aside, Brandon and the rest of our guys repeatedly taking ownership for losses is one of the hardest parts to watch of all this for me. From our point of view its clear that a lot of the things going wrong are primarily not their fault, but I doubt they are able to see it that way and instead are probably extremely frustrated and hard on themselves. Regardless of how you feel about him as a player, by all accounts Brandon is a good teammate and leader, and for him to be in this situation of perennially losing with too much expected of him sucks.
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Deaconblue said:
I'll give Brandon more of a pass on those comments after this particular game. It was a celebration of his father's greatest moments in basketball and the team mates his father played with. I'm sure he wanted to win this game more than some other games. And Brandon didn't play well.

Brandon still needs to realize he plays best when he works at facilitating others getting shots, like he did against u*NC. He will still gets his shot opportunities. Passes to his four team mates should be his first four thoughts.
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That's pretty much where I was coming from. I'm not one to blame the coach for all of a team's woes, I think coaches sometimes get too much blame for a team's effort. The players have a responsibility for their effort too. However, our guys in my opinion are saddled with such a poor head coach I hate for them to beat themselves up too much. I just don't see anything that Manning has done to help make our guys better. I actually think the effort has been there for the most part this year and we've been in position to win several more games than we have, but a team needs a coach to guide them through the points of a game where the other team is making a run or when our guys are in a scoring drought and nothing I've seen tells me Manning does anything to help our team during a game.
 
Did not watch, but it appears the night went as well as one could hope for ...

This will go down as hopefully the only time I ever cheered for the opposition over Wake. I do wonder what I would have done had I actually watched.

Full disclosure, the Democratic debate was so gangbusters cray (in a good way), that I checked Twitter for reactions and got the Wake outcome. I might have been tempted had I not known the outcome.
 
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