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  1. #201
    will Gates have all those microchips ready by November?

  2. #202
    Most certainly, they have been planning this for decades.

  3. #203
    The last thing I want is a microchip on my person so the government has data on my location at all times.

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  4. #204
    seems like "vaccine by November" is a poor way to word that then

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Gossett Jr View Post
    I don't think anything that you just said about strains and mutation rates is correct.

    As far as vaccines by November there will most likely be preliminary data from the current trials being run that enroll 30,000 or so people that point to the safety and efficacy at large levels. It changes nothing about when the vaccine will actually be widely available which will be beginning of 2021 at large scale if successful. Now with almost a week or two before the election the notion there is an effective vaccine available be hyped up and the cornavirus problem cured, almost certainly.
    There are a number of articles on mutations. Most are believed to behave similarly and therefore vaccine would work on most, but lots of questions on that front. Just as a flu vaccine only covers 4 strains so many still get flu as different strains end up prevailing that vaccine doesnít cover. So it will likely be with Covid. At least according to Gates, Fauci and many others.

  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by JuiceCrewAllStar View Post
    people who know things, Fauci talking about a November vaccine

    what does that actually mean?
    There are a lot of "ifs" and "maybes" in his statement. The biggest was needing the 30,000 vaccine trial volunteers to be in areas where enough get exposed to see if it really works. Sounded like Fauci was being very optimistic in that particular statement.

    Many vaccine development candidates are in the pipeline because there are different ways of making vaccines. Some use different parts of the virus to entice the body's immune system to produce antibodies that then protect against the live virus. We will see which ones prove to be effective.

    And then, once there is a reasonably proven safe and effective vaccine, there is the business of producing billions of doses and getting them to the people. That is a massive logistics effort.

  7. #207
    Never mind
    Last edited by Louis Gossett Jr; 07-27-2020 at 08:41 PM.

  8. #208
    Two big phase 3 vaccine trials start this week. One is for a vaccine based on messenger RNA. That is new.

    Washington Post article

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    Don't know that America is "the cool kids" anymore, but point taken.

  11. #211
    How many countries don't want to allow 'mericans to enter again?

  12. #212
    Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is one of the few U.S. agencies that actually have been doing research and planning for a scenario like the Covid-19 virus.

    Washington Post article about their progress toward treatment.

    DARPA Corona virus

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    So I am probably pretty dumb for even bringing this up. But on the whole "Bill Gates is going to microchip every one via the C19 vaccine" conspiracy theory ... aren't vaccines liquid? And aren't they administered via a syringe? If so, how the hell could you even implant a microchip that way? Again, sorry for even giving this one more than a second of thought, but it just blows my mind that people truly believe this crap.

  15. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by Bubble Boy View Post
    So I am probably pretty dumb for even bringing this up. But on the whole "Bill Gates is going to microchip every one via the C19 vaccine" conspiracy theory ... aren't vaccines liquid? And aren't they administered via a syringe? If so, how the hell could you even implant a microchip that way? Again, sorry for even giving this one more than a second of thought, but it just blows my mind that people truly believe this crap.
    These are the same people that think that a virus can escape a mask, but a carbon dioxide molecule can't. They don't know the size of things.

  16. #216
    ...and theyíre walking around NC saying stupid shit like Cooper and Fauci are ruining us.
    I love mankind...itís people I canít stand!!

  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by Bubble Boy View Post
    So I am probably pretty dumb for even bringing this up. But on the whole "Bill Gates is going to microchip every one via the C19 vaccine" conspiracy theory ... aren't vaccines liquid? And aren't they administered via a syringe? If so, how the hell could you even implant a microchip that way? Again, sorry for even giving this one more than a second of thought, but it just blows my mind that people truly believe this crap.
    To be fair (tough I am not sure why I would be) the microchip you inject into pets is done via a needle.
    Birds are real.

  18. #218
    just off the hip on this issue...

    It would have to be a large trocar, maybe 18g or more (like they do with dog microchips). Animals have a lot of extra skin on their scruff (where most get their microchips). It is not that painful for them in this location (they continuously bite each other in this location).

    I would think that a microchip on a human would still have to be given SC (like dogs/cats). I do not believe that any vaccine would be given SC with a needle that size, it would be very painful for most humans, and difficult to ensure the entire vaccine is absorbed. It just doesn't really make any sense.

    I don't think we are there quite yet...at a mass level.
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  19. #219
    CDC now saying the "high tech" masks with the outlet valve are not good for suppressing the spread of Covid.

    Washington Post article

  20. #220
    Sniffer dogs may be able to detect Covid in asymptomatic people. Training and proof of concept activities underway. This research was reported in the Washington Post.

    Dog detecting Covid article

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