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Covid-19 - Treatments & Vaccines

Latest COVID spike isn't swamping NYC hospitals like before; another 22,000 test positive in state

But new hospitalizations and deaths - so far - are averaging well below their spring 2020 peak and even where they were this time last year, during a winter wave that came as vaccinations were just beginning, city data shows.

Mount Sinai Health System’s emergency rooms are seeing about 20% more patients - with all conditions - in recent days, according to Dr. Eric Legome, who oversees two of the network’s seven ERs. But at least so far, “we’re seeing a lot more treat-and-release” coronavirus patients than in earlier waves, he said.

Many are looking for tests, help with mild or moderate symptoms, or monoclonal antibody treatment, but very few require oxygen or a hospital stay, said Legome. He runs the ERs at Mount Sinai West and Mount Sinai Morningside.

Hospital admissions and deaths tend to rise and fall weeks after cases do. But Dr. Fritz François, the chief of hospital operations for NYU Langone Health, says so far, “we’re actually seeing something different” than in previous surges.
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Meanwhile in crazy land just trying to stir up some violence.

Fox News defended Watters. A spokesperson said in a statement, "Based on watching the full clip and reading the entire transcript, it's more than clear that Jesse Watters was using a metaphor for asking hard-hitting questions to Dr. Fauci about gain-of-function research and his words have been twisted completely out of context."
Watters made his remarks Monday at the right-wing Turning Points USA conference where he gave students a playbook on how to record a viral moment that Fox News would air and that other right wing outlets would amplify.
"Now you go in for the kill shot. The kill shot? With an ambush? Deadly. Because he doesn't see it coming," Watters said.
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
Meanwhile in crazy land just trying to stir up some violence.

Fox News defended Watters. A spokesperson said in a statement, "Based on watching the full clip and reading the entire transcript, it's more than clear that Jesse Watters was using a metaphor for asking hard-hitting questions to Dr. Fauci about gain-of-function research and his words have been twisted completely out of context."
Watters made his remarks Monday at the right-wing Turning Points USA conference where he gave students a playbook on how to record a viral moment that Fox News would air and that other right wing outlets would amplify.
"Now you go in for the kill shot. The kill shot? With an ambush? Deadly. Because he doesn't see it coming," Watters said.
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Even using the Fox News excuse, they are complaining that his words were "twisted completely out of context" when they are defending Watters telling conference members how to catch Fauci saying something that they can record and send it to Fox so Fox can take Fauci's words and twist them completely out of context for right-wing messaging purposes. Nice. Of course, what Watters actually said goes well beyond that, as Fox (and Watters) damn well knows.
 
Conservatives want to spark violence and not get blamed for it.
 
PhDeac said:
Conservatives want to spark violence and not get blamed for it.
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The "largely" and "mostly" peaceful protests in 2020 cheered on and rationalized by the left in the name of social justice which led to close to 20 deaths and over $1B in property damage wave hello
 
Colonel Angus said:
The "largely" and "mostly" peaceful protests in 2020 cheered on and rationalized by the left in the name of social justice which led to close to 20 deaths and over $1B in property damage wave hello
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At least they didn't attack the US Capitol in a deliberate attempt to murder members of Congress they didn't like, steal statues and rub their shit over the walls and carpet and so forth. In other words, a coup attempt.
 
Not to go full 2&2, but maintaining a 10 day quarantine regardless of vaccination/booster status seems odd. Saw there was some discussion of potentially testing out early, but even that was on the 7th day or so. Is that period likely based on science or more based on "well, there's a chance of spread" (even when the chance is minuscule)?
 
Highland Deac said:
At least they didn't attack the US Capitol in a deliberate attempt to murder members of Congress they didn't like, steal statues and rub their shit over the walls and carpet and so forth. In other words, a coup attempt.
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TBF, they did take some statues down.
Colonel Angus said:
The "largely" and "mostly" peaceful protests in 2020 cheered on and rationalized by the left in the name of social justice which led to close to 20 deaths and over $1B in property damage wave hello
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Here is a list of some of those deaths that Angus and jhmd and others include when they drop a number without context.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

Kyle Rittenhouse's killings are included, as are several by right-wingers and cops. Vast majority involve guns-it would be nice if we could do something about that.
 
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Baden said:
Not to go full 2&2, but maintaining a 10 day quarantine regardless of vaccination/booster status seems odd. Saw there was some discussion of potentially testing out early, but even that was on the 7th day or so. Is that period likely based on science or more based on "well, there's a chance of spread" (even when the chance is minuscule)?
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Quarantine is used when someone is exposed, and isolation is used when someone tests positive. The CDC announced yesterday that they are likely to recommend cutting isolation time in half, from 10 days to 5, for vaccinated individuals, based on the science of COVID shedding and the infectious period.
 
WakeForestRanger said:
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Yeah, that's the vaccine you might want to actually look at skeptically.

What's the last big thing the US military came up with ? THE INTERNET. And we see how that's going.
 
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