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Covid-19 - Treatments & Vaccines

Colonel Angus said:
Will any of the medical professionals on the Tunnels explain what changed with The Science TM over the past month or so for the governors in states like NY, NJ, and CT to drop mask mandates?
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they probably looked at new information and changed their policies

weird how that works
 
WakeandBake said:
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Man, I had forgotten all about this Gif. Amazing. Of course those kids are probably 30 by now.
 
Colonel Angus said:
Will any of the medical professionals on the Tunnels explain what changed with The Science TM over the past month or so for the governors in states like NY, NJ, and CT to drop mask mandates?
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The rates of COVID have dropped dramatically in all 3 of those states. As an example, NY had an average of 45,000 new daily cases 1 month ago, and now they have 1500 daily cases - so a 97% decrease in daily cases. In addition, the predominant variant is now omicron, which appears to be much less virulent than delta.
 
Colonel Angus said:
OK - Where is this "new information" that prompted policy changes?
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New cases per day are approximately 10 times less in New Jersey, >10 less in New York, and 9.5 times less in Connecticut than they were at the beginning of January. I know you struggle with numbers so, if you need more clarification on the difference between 74,000 and 6500 cases per day, I am here to help.
 
Rafi said:
The rates of COVID have dropped dramatically in all 3 of those states. As an example, NY had an average of 45,000 new daily cases 1 month ago, and now they have 1500 daily cases - so a 97% decrease in daily cases. In addition, the predominant variant is now omicron, which appears to be much less virulent than delta.
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Understood - But per the NYT Covid tracker, NY state reported almost 6,000 cases on Feb 9th which is still higher compared to the daily case average numbers reported from mid-April 2021 to mid-November 2021.

So why weren't the mask mandates dropped months ago when the average daily case numbers were lower than the current numbers?
 
Colonel Angus said:
Understood - But per the NYT Covid tracker, NY state reported almost 6,000 cases on Feb 9th which is still higher compared to the daily case average numbers reported from mid-April 2021 to mid-November 2021.

So why weren't the mask mandates dropped months ago when the average daily case numbers were lower than the current numbers?
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Because delta was a worse disease than omicron is. This is not hard. It probably has more to do with hospitalization rates than daily case rates anyway, but I cited the case the rates because they are available on Google's tracker. Do you know how to use google?
 
birdman said:
Because delta was a worse disease than omicron is. This is not hard. It probably has more to do with hospitalization rates than daily case rates anyway, but I cited the case the rates because they are available on Google's tracker. Do you know how to use google?
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4,670 COVID hospitalizations in NY reported on 2/8/22.

4,670 hospitalizations is a higher daily total than any individual day of COVID hospitalizations reported between a 9 month stretch from mid-March 2021 through mid-December 2021.

https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/daily-hospitalization-summary

Better luck next time, scientist
 
Colonel Angus said:
Understood - But per the NYT Covid tracker, NY state reported almost 6,000 cases on Feb 9th which is still higher compared to the daily case average numbers reported from mid-April 2021 to mid-November 2021.

So why weren't the mask mandates dropped months ago when the average daily case numbers were lower than the current numbers?
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I recommend looking at 7 day averages rather than single days - it is much more consistent and informative.

Last year the predominant variant in the late summer and fall was delta, which appears much more virulent than omicron.
 
Because it became politicized public health now weighs what people will do and for how long in relation to mitigation of a disease, additionally the majority of those dying are unvaccinated and therefore at some point you have to chalk those people up to acceptable losses, that time is now. The only people you should feel sorry for are the immunocompromised and other disable through no fault of their own, but they have always been marginalized so just throw it on the pile.
 
Colonel Angus said:
4,670 COVID hospitalizations in NY reported on 2/8/22.

4,670 hospitalizations is a higher daily total than any individual day of COVID hospitalizations reported between a 9 month stretch from mid-March 2021 through mid-December 2021.

https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/daily-hospitalization-summary

Better luck next time, scientist
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The hospitalization rates in NY have dropped 25% in the past week and 50% in the past month. Importantly, they are also 34% down compared to 1 year ago, as we head into spring.
 
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