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Covid-19 - Treatments & Vaccines

Let's look and see what "any rube with access to the internet" would find.

1. Type in google.com into the address bar.
2. Type in Florida vaccination rates in the search bar.
3. ???
4.

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In all fairness, it did go over 50% from Aug 12 to Aug 13.
 
This letter from 800 FL physicians immediately set off my bullshit detector. With the volume of disinformation posted recently on the Tunnels by the usual scholars under the guise of "news", I quickly reviewed the physician letter and it didn't disappoint.

Just a couple of highlights:

Per the letter - "Gov. DeSantis stopped sharing COVID-19 statistics"

This is Rebekah Jones level bullshit. No investigation has found the FL DOH deleted, hid or manipulated the COVID data reported daily during the week to the CDC. So it appears the 800 "physicians" signed a letter that included now debunked conspiracy theories. Strike One.

Per the letter - "Fewer than half of eligible Floridians are fully vaccinated"

Another lie as the FL eligible vax rate is 65% (per last week's DOH report) which exceeds the national average. One would think these "physicians" would confirm a number easily accessible by any rube with access to the internet. Guess not because narrative. Strike Two.


Also important to note this letter was paid for and sponsored by the Committee to Protect Healthcare which is an advocacy group that uses ActBlue as a fundraising platform. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.

And the former name of this committee was the “Committee to Protect Medicare & the ACA” - Strike Three

Ah, yes, your highly tuned bullshit detector that defends somebody like Donald J. Trump. Unlike you, those are medical professionals, Angus, and yes, I do think they have a much better grasp than you do of the effectiveness of masking. The DeSantis administration did stop sharing daily covid statistics for a good while and went to weekly statistics, and only resumed giving daily statistics when the covid surge hit. Lord, you'll do or say anything to defend DeSantis, won't you?
 
Let's look and see what "any rube with access to the internet" would find.

1. Type in google.com into the address bar.
2. Type in Florida vaccination rates in the search bar.
3. ???
4.

5168855854612480.png


In all fairness, it did go over 50% from Aug 12 to Aug 13.

the letter says,

Fewer than half of eligible Floridians are fully vaccinated.

those under 12 are not eligible. That map shows percentage of total population, including those under 12. So, while in the very recent past, fewer than half of FL's total population has been fully vaccinated, FL has had more than half of its eligible population fully vaccinated for quite some time.

(also, ETA that FL DOH is including those receiving one shot in their "total vaccinated", which is incorrect; if we count those with "series complete", than FL has 54% of its eligible population fully vaccinated)
 
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Do you have a link to the "Our World in Data" source data for these numbers?

Here is the link to the DOH report updated through 8/12/21:

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/covid19-data/covid19_data_latest.pdf

Check out pages 4 and 7 - 65% of eligible vaccinated

Ahhhm, I'm not a mathematician, but that link say 278% of Hispanics aged 12 and up are vaccinated in FL. That is approximately 178% over what is possible. Someone's math is wrong.
 
ITT I learned that doctors in Florida and all over are in a conspiracy to make our kids wear masks at schools. Their sinister motive is to further Socialist causes, specifically affordable healthcare. Only Ron DeSantis and other brave freedom-lovers can stop this plot!
 
Was proud to read this morning that Madison Cawthorn, who was featured on John Oliver's show last night, is the only member of the NC congressional delegation to not be vaccinated. Good thing he's following CDC guidance to wear a mask if unvaxxed !

Buncombe County and Asheville are bringing back mask mandates for restaurants and such tomorrow, so I hope to see some video of him getting kicked out for noncompliance.
 
I've been begging my friend from work for months to go get the vaccine. Last week I said I'll take you and give you $50 if you get it. He said make it $100 and he would. This was Wednesday of last week. He now has COVID.

His reasoning for not getting it is that he's black and was raised by 2 ministers in a super religious household. I told him I thought the comment about being black was a joke and he told me that it's a stereotype because it's true.

I've been texting with him today and he said he has a fever and his breathing is a little raspy. I'm a but worried about the guy because he's super overweight.

I also am worried that I was face-to-face with him last week and we slapped hands a few times. I don't want Another round of this crap.
 
Hope your friend recovers and you don't get it.

My sister and her husband are Trumpers and they haven't gotten the shots. I'm sure they think that because they are relatively young and healthy, they'll be just fine if they get it, and of course are not thinking about spreading it because Trumpers give no thought to how their decisions might affect other people.

Thankfully, my dad, who is slightly less of a Trumper, got it.
 
Hope your friend recovers and you don't get it.

My sister and her husband are Trumpers and they haven't gotten the shots. I'm sure they think that because they are relatively young and healthy, they'll be just fine if they get it, and of course are not thinking about spreading it because Trumpers give no thought to how their decisions might affect other people.

Thankfully, my dad, who is slightly less of a Trumper, got it.

Thanks - I'll report back.

Glad your dad got the Bill Gates demon semen. My folks(also trumpers) surprisingly got the shot immediately.
 
Yeah, it's interesting, the majority of Trump supporters in my family are pro-vaccine ("Trump deserves all the credit!"), but there are also the anti-vaxxers who are now getting along much better with those who did not support Trump but have always been anti-vaccine for other reasons (skeptical of Western medicine overall). It's not an encouraging alliance.
 
Hope your friend recovers and you don't get it.

My sister and her husband are Trumpers and they haven't gotten the shots. I'm sure they think that because they are relatively young and healthy, they'll be just fine if they get it, and of course are not thinking about spreading it because Trumpers give no thought to how their decisions might affect other people.

Thankfully, my dad, who is slightly less of a Trumper, got it.

I'm close to a bunch of nurses. The delta variant is different, this shit fucks you up if you're not vaccinated even if you are young and healthy. I have someone I associate with go on the vent at 40 with two kids. From what I am hearing is he is not going to make it.

If you are not vaccinated you are big dumb. Like fucking dumb with a hard R.
 
Throw it on the pile but the messaging on breakthroughs, vaccines, testing, and quarantine really needs to be worked on. My uncle had a breakthrough case and because he was vaccinated thought it’s just a head cold why get tested, proceeds to spend a week on a golf trip with my dad, who gets a breakthrough case, and my other uncle who also gets a breakthrough case. Nobody tested until this weekend when my mom tells me what’s going on.

All over the age of 65 so obviously more likely to have waning immunity but the vaccine isnt a universal shield, vaccines work after your body already has viral particles inside you replicating. Guess what happens when you spend x amount of time with an infected person, you are constantly exposed over and over again, allowing large viral loads to take hold and breakthrough your vaccine protection.
 
Yeah, it's interesting, the majority of Trump supporters in my family are pro-vaccine ("Trump deserves all the credit!"), but there are also the anti-vaxxers who are now getting along much better with those who did not support Trump but have always been anti-vaccine for other reasons (skeptical of Western medicine overall). It's not an encouraging alliance.

My Hippie ass aunt has my little cousin completely unvaxxed. So dumb.
 
Throw it on the pile but the messaging on breakthroughs, vaccines, testing, and quarantine really needs to be worked on. My uncle had a breakthrough case and because he was vaccinated thought it’s just a head cold why get tested, proceeds to spend a week on a golf trip with my dad, who gets a breakthrough case, and my other uncle who also gets a breakthrough case. Nobody tested until this weekend when my mom tells me what’s going on.

All over the age of 65 so obviously more likely to have waning immunity but the vaccine isnt a universal shield, vaccines work after your body already has viral particles inside you replicating. Guess what happens when you spend x amount of time with an infected person, you are constantly exposed over and over again, allowing large viral loads to take hold and breakthrough your vaccine protection.

Are they all ok?
 
Yeah vaccines work for what they are. Uncle 1 patient zero had a head cold and fever for a night and then played golf the rest of the week, my dad said he felt like the day after he got the second dose of the vaccine and lasted 24 hours then fine, uncle 2 lost his senses of smell and taste. It was also a perfect vaccine cohort of 1 Moderna, 1 Pfizer, and 1 JnJ.
 
Yeah vaccines work for what they are. Uncle 1 patient zero had a head cold and fever for a night and then played golf the rest of the week, my dad said he felt like the day after he got the second dose of the vaccine and lasted 24 hours then fine, uncle 2 lost his senses of smell and taste. It was also a perfect vaccine cohort of 1 Moderna, 1 Pfizer, and 1 JnJ.

Did uncle 2 recover his senses yet? I have a friend who caught Covid in November and still can't taste or smell.
 

Burke has built a reputation as an outspoken conservative. He drew attention in the U.S. in 2004 when he said he would deny Holy Communion to Democratic presidential nominee, John Kerry, a Roman Catholic who supports abortion rights.

Pope Francis reassigned Burke from the Vatican court in 2014 after he said the church was like a ship with no rudder.

Burke also criticized the University of Notre Dame, in 2009, over its plans to give then-President Barack Obama an honorary degree because Obama supports abortion. In March of this year, he criticized Pope Francis for issuing a decree limiting the Latin Mass at St. Peter’s Basilica to two hours a day in the structure’s grottos.

He also has criticized how governments have handled the pandemic, referring to the virus in a homily last December as the “Wuhan virus,” a derogatory term coined by former President Donald Trump to describe the coronavirus and warning people that governments were manipulating them. In May 2020, he spoke out against mandatory vaccinations, saying some in society want to implant microchips in people.

He said in March 2020 that the best weapon for battling “the evil of the coronavirus” is a relationship with Jesus Christ.

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