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2020 Presidential Election: Biden v. Trump

Speaking from personal experience losing a very close family member in a car accident is not a trauma that I'd like to compare to sexual violence in any way, for any reason.

So I'm not quite sure what I think about that yet, if I'm being honest.

What

Go Bucks I guess.
 
I'm not comparing sexual assault to the loss of loved ones. I'm questioning why or how some can be empathetic to the mental trauma caused by sexual assault and its affect, but immediately victim blame someone suffering from the mental trauma caused by the loss of a wife and child.
 
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There’s no perfect sexual assault survivor but there has to be a perfect widower.

Didn't I say I didn't want to compare traumas? I don't think anyone's perfect.

I was responding with rj's past comment about trauma and memory in mind, when he claimed that he recalled everything (traumatic) that happened to him with perfect memory. Literature on sexual violence proves that's not the case for many survivors.

W/r/t Biden my initial reaction to the story (which I just learned about) is that having the police report declare that the death of your loved ones was a tragic accident and then publicly figuring the accident as manslaughter years later seems kind of unfair to the other victim of the accident, the trucker. He wasn't drunk and (as Shooshmoo's link shows) the incident followed him too. I'm glad Biden apologized, but I think if you make a mistake like that public, you may want to make the apology public as well?

That said, I understand where Biden's pain is coming from because I lost my mother when I was 12 in a car accident. I'm just not sure I would take it out on the other victim of this. And if I did, if I really recognized that what I said in public was wrong, I'd make my apology public too.

I don't think that's "victim blaming" or "searching for a perfect widower." I'm willing to think this out further if you don't agree.
 
Will try and put my hours in the “bullshit trump says” salt mines before I return

Cheers all
 
I think maybe where you see victim blaming, I'm just trying to compare my experience to Biden's and I probably shouldn't do that, tbh. It was a visceral reaction, I think.

But more to my post before - the one that confused you both - I don't think comparing traumas/life-altering-tragedies is helpful. So, no I don't begrudge Biden for it. I just wish he had done right by the other family too.
 
The idea that my link shows he wasn't drunk is definitely not the case. It was the fucking 70s man, everybody was driving drunk. That he was not prosecuted for it doesn't mean he didn't do it. In any event, that's not the point, which it's weird you guys aren't getting, but let Townie deflect and be back at it tomorrow.
 
The idea that my link shows he wasn't drunk is definitely not the case. It was the fucking 70s man, everybody was driving drunk. That he was not prosecuted for it doesn't mean he didn't do it. In any event, that's not the point, which it's weird you guys aren't getting, but let Townie deflect and be back at it tomorrow.

I'm just going off what was reported.

What is the point then? I said I'm empathetic to both traumas and maybe I was a bit too heavyhanded with the language of my initial response.
 
It's not you, it more the people who are absolutely livid at anything that questions the validity of some sex assault allegations based on the affects if mental trauma, but then will blame Biden for how he reacted to mental trauma. No worries.
 
Who are those people, Shoo?

Biden’s been through a lot and I don’t envy him. Losing his family and then a son. I can’t imagine.

I’m so sorry, Kory. That’s horrible, man.

I’m not sure what the point is here. Shoo? Ph? This all feels so perverse. What’s the point?
 
well one difference is that we aren't culturally socialized to call grieving widow's (rape accusers) liars and accuse them of sexist conspiracy theories when their grief (rape accusation) is inconvenient to our politics. Perhaps Biden was treated unfairly in this particular instance, but it's fucking dumb to compare it to the plight of rape victims.
 
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Who are those people, Shoo?

Biden’s been through a lot and I don’t envy him. Losing his family and then a son. I can’t imagine.

I’m so sorry, Kory. That’s horrible, man.

I’m not sure what the point is here. Shoo? Ph? This all feels so perverse. What’s the point?

Ask Townie. He brought it up. Agree it is perverse. Mdmh is a fuckin lunatic, but I think we all knew that.
 
Ask Townie. He brought it up. Agree it is perverse. Mdmh is a fuckin lunatic, but I think we all knew that.

I believe rape accusations, I'm nearly socialist, and I cuss at people online when they condescend to me. You want normal me, hit me up on the hotsauce Reddit and talk to me about ghost peppers instead of moderate yuppie bullshit
 
Who are those people, Shoo?

Biden’s been through a lot and I don’t envy him. Losing his family and then a son. I can’t imagine.

I’m so sorry, Kory. That’s horrible, man.

I’m not sure what the point is here. Shoo? Ph? This all feels so perverse. What’s the point?

no worries! i've talked about it on the boards before, and i find it helps to be open.
 
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