• Welcome to OGBoards 10.0, keep in mind that we will be making LOTS of changes to smooth out the experience here and make it as close as possible functionally to the old software, but feel free to drop suggestions or requests in the Tech Support subforum!

Labor/Workers movements thread


I’ll start with the obvious points that low paid prison labor is exploitation at best and slavery in general. The quote from the city is a cruel joke. The headline is horrible and makes it seem like prisoners have some agency in this.

Are the people of New Orleans happy about prisoners driving around their neighborhoods picking up their trash? What are the logistics here?

And let’s take this back about 200 years. Imagine poor white people who already work in horrible conditions before any semblance of workers’ rights. Then a slaveowner takes over a project and they’re replaced by slaves and lose that shitty job. But they’re fine with it and go on to fight a war to keep that system in place. We’re basically in that position with prison labor.
 
 
Whoops wrong one:


 
 
 
 
Three main factors:

1) Industry turned to VC for money, VC bled it dry
2) FB and Google completely cornered the ad market and made ad sales elsewhere virtually worthless
3) As overheads dropped with move to digital, the market got too crowded and legacy media was able to buy up a ton of scale and then when times were tougher, jettisoned anything remotely deadweight
 
Three main factors:

1) Industry turned to VC for money, VC bled it dry
2) FB and Google completely cornered the ad market and made ad sales elsewhere virtually worthless
3) As overheads dropped with move to digital, the market got too crowded and legacy media was able to buy up a ton of scale and then when times were tougher, jettisoned anything remotely deadweight

Venture capital is cannibalizing whole sectors of the economy. The bullshit joke about there only being one brand of shampoo under socialism? Well, how far are we from having one national newspaper and one major chain "big box"store ?
 
Three main factors:

1) Industry turned to VC for money, VC bled it dry
2) FB and Google completely cornered the ad market and made ad sales elsewhere virtually worthless
3) As overheads dropped with move to digital, the market got too crowded and legacy media was able to buy up a ton of scale and then when times were tougher, jettisoned anything remotely deadweight

 
 
Further

 
Is that one to one, does everything at a Denmark McDonalds costs twice as much as a US McDonalds? Seems like it would be a good test case of the rising wages equal rising costs hypothesis, but even so get all those benefits a great deal regardless.
 
Is that one to one, does everything at a Denmark McDonalds costs twice as much as a US McDonalds? Seems like it would be a good test case of the rising wages equal rising costs hypothesis, but even so get all those benefits a great deal regardless.

no, danes just pay about 19 cents per dollar more than americans in tax
 

Sorry could have pulled out the relevant question:

A Big Mac flipped by $22-an-hour workers isn’t even that much more expensive than an American one. Big Mac prices vary by outlet, but my spot pricing suggested that one might cost about 27 cents more on average in Denmark than in the United States. That 27 cents is the price of dignity.

Americans might suspect that the Danish safety net encourages laziness. But 79 percent of Danes ages 16 to 64 are in the labor force, five percentage points higher than in the United States.

Danes earn about the same after-tax income as Americans, even though they work on average 22 percent fewer hours; on the other hand, money doesn’t go as far in Denmark because prices average 18 percent higher. My own rough guess is that the top quarter of earners live better in America, but that the bottom three-quarters live better in Denmark.
 
No, thank you for posting the article, I appreciated the read. For me the biggest take away was in the middle where it was stated that most likely the top 25% of people in America live better but the lower 75% in Denmark live better, it kinda of shows what an uphill climb change will be here because the divide is so great. The top 25% have all the power, and even within that group it is the 1%, so what are the other 75% suppose to do when they just struggle to survive. Throw in people just don't like change, say we have an extra 19% in taxes, but free healthcare, the increase in real dollars is almost a wash right there and would help so many people.
 
Back
Top