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    Labor/Workers movements thread

    Since I'm generally depressed about national politics, I'm gonna confine my thoughts to labor movements, organizing, work stoppages, etc. along with anything interesting I find regarding theories of work, automation, etc.

    Here's a story about an Amazon VP resigning, calling the company "chickenshit" for firing workers who organized protests:

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z...esting-workers

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    tag: Commie circle jerk

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    JK

    I'm with you man. National politics is sad because neither major candidate is going to do anything to fix the real problems face Americans. This country is fucked. May as well just focus on the little stories that makes us happy.

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    Have you been following the COLA protests out west, Townie? UAW sold the rank-and-file out with an awful contract so unionists in Santa Cruz entered into a two quarter long wildcat strike, which has now inspired the union to change course and support a COLA for all member campuses.
    We're going to be good again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strickland33 View Post
    Have you been following the COLA protests out west, Townie? UAW sold the rank-and-file out with an awful contract so unionists in Santa Cruz entered into a two quarter long wildcat strike, which has now inspired the union to change course and support a COLA for all member campuses.
    Have been a little, yeah, but it's not the part of the country where I get a lot of insider news.

    The May 1 protests were a little underwhelming.

    It's such a fascinating time to study labor movements. Labor can't afford to stay home but now would be the perfect time for work stoppages. I think you'd get sympathy from people who understand how scary it is to go to work.

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    Thatís part of the challenge. How does labor organize large scale public protests around the fear of going back into public life?

    There needs to be some effective counter to the AstroTurf ďback to workĒ protest that are just white supremacist recruiting fronts.

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    grad union plz
    semi-aquatic like otters be.

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    The labor organizing part isn't the issue; it's getting media to cover that story instead of the astroturf "I want Red Lobster" protests.

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    I can only speak from the view of public school teachers, but I feel that our union efforts are very weak. The only way you get to the right wing hacks that control Raleigh is to disrupt cash flows and/or the daily lives of taxing paying parents. Obviously now is not the time, but in the future teacher strikes or marches should be scheduled for days in which it would do the most harm to state economy and/or parent's schedules. Teachers have far more influence than we realize. And I have no doubt that we will be the first group to lose promised pay raises/benefits/etc once the state returns to "business as normal".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenaciousKory View Post
    grad union plz
    Iím happy to connect you with some folks if youíre interested? I was part of a recruiting drive at a previous institution and know folks at the state-level and my local UAW. Also, I donít know how you feel about IWW but I could put you in touch with them, too.
    We're going to be good again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillBrasky View Post
    I can only speak from the view of public school teachers, but I feel that our union efforts are very weak. The only way you get to the right wing hacks that control Raleigh is to disrupt cash flows and/or the daily lives of taxing paying parents. Obviously now is not the time, but in the future teacher strikes or marches should be scheduled for days in which it would do the most harm to state economy and/or parent's schedules. Teachers have far more influence than we realize. And I have no doubt that we will be the first group to lose promised pay raises/benefits/etc once the state returns to "business as normal".
    You should step up, man! If Arizona and West Virginia proved anything, then itís that the movement just needs a future charismatic leaders to spark mass strikes and marches.
    We're going to be good again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strickland33 View Post
    Iím happy to connect you with some folks if youíre interested? I was part of a recruiting drive at a previous institution and know folks at the state-level and my local UAW. Also, I donít know how you feel about IWW but I could put you in touch with them, too.
    nice. i'm already working on the grad campaign here tho. we're with the united steelworkers.
    semi-aquatic like otters be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strickland33 View Post
    You should step up, man! If Arizona and West Virginia proved anything, then itís that the movement just needs a future charismatic leaders to spark mass strikes and marches.
    I've actually thought about doing something, but not within the framework of our current union set up. The NCAE just doesn't impress me. Maybe start a FB group or other social media platform with eventually evolves into more a movement. IDK.

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    There are so many realizations right now about the necessity of schools simply through a what the fuck do I do with my child when I need to go to work lens. There's no opening the economy without childcare through schools, camps, etc... Yet, I am sure that within X amount of time all of that will be forgotten and people will go back to teachers don't work enough, free summer vacation and so forth because we have a dumb society that's easily manipulated and distracted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenaciousKory View Post
    nice. i'm already working on the grad campaign here tho. we're with the united steelworkers.
    Grad students always find the strangest unions to organize with: autoworkers, steelworkers, teamsters. Awesome, though! I'd love to follow y'all's progress if you can keep us posted on here every once and awhile.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillBrasky View Post
    I've actually thought about doing something, but not within the framework of our current union set up. The NCAE just doesn't impress me. Maybe start a FB group or other social media platform with eventually evolves into more a movement. IDK.
    Definitely! There's no time like the present, Brasky, and fwiw you see like the kind of dude that colleagues would listen to and rally behind.
    We're going to be good again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesSokolove View Post
    Good read; fits well for white collar and high margin businesses especially. It's a good alternative or supplement to UBI and problems automation will cause too, in the longer term, and there are lots of successful case studies for businesses to model after.

    My company CEO sent a video via email saying anyone who doesn't want to or can't for child care reasons shouldn't have to return to any office we have in 2020. He said the exec team is considering (for a 2,000+ person company) plans for full remote work among options for continuity planning.

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    If a company has you work from home, you should get a raise commensurate with how much your not being in a facility of theirs saves the company. The more expensive the city, the bigger your raise should be.

    However, as good a telecommuting sounds, I think long run it will harm creativity and innovation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Gossett Jr View Post
    There are so many realizations right now about the necessity of schools simply through a what the fuck do I do with my child when I need to go to work lens. There's no opening the economy without childcare through schools, camps, etc... Yet, I am sure that within X amount of time all of that will be forgotten and people will go back to teachers don't work enough, free summer vacation and so forth because we have a dumb society that's easily manipulated and distracted.
    Yep. DeSantis wants to be all "Let's get the economy going" but he closed schools for the rest of the year weeks ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Strickland33 View Post
    You should step up, man! If Arizona and West Virginia proved anything, then itís that the movement just needs a future charismatic leaders to spark mass strikes and marches.
    Good point.

    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    The labor organizing part isn't the issue; it's getting media to cover that story instead of the astroturf "I want Red Lobster" protests.
    That's a big part of the challenge. And there also needs to be more focus on the "leaders" of the astroturf "protests" as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJKarl View Post
    If a company has you work from home, you should get a raise commensurate with how much your not being in a facility of theirs saves the company. The more expensive the city, the bigger your raise should be.
    Don't most companies lease their real estate? What is the real cost savings? Utilities and perks?

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