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Thread: Newman Opting Out At UGA

  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by JKW385 View Post
    Donít think thereís any way Hartman stays if Newman is back in 2020 so yeah it worked out. I was mad about it at the time but who cares now- clearly we were able to move on and I wish Jamie well- had some special moments late 2018 and 2019 with him as QB. The win in Raleigh in 2018 and UNC in 2019 were special. Honestly - I think Hartmanís injury and Newmanís ascent forced Sam to get better. Post 2019- our top skill players coming back the next year were Sage, Jamie, KW3- none of them stayed with program for the special year in 2021 which is a testament to how deep we have been on offense the last few years. I know this isnít the Sage, KW3 thread but itís crazy to think how good we could have been in 2021 with Sage and KW3 as weapons- especially KW3. Actually we could have still had Dortch on that team if he would have stuck around to be a super Senior. Thatís SEC level talent in skill positions. Yeah - none of those guys were on defense but maybe itís enough fire power to win UNC and Pitt and get to CFP.
    Good post and this whole second page has lots of good point/counter points. Our offense has been in good shape for 5 years and continues to reload. Come on D!

  2. #122
    Issue on offense is there just arenít enough plays to go around for everyone to get their ďfair shareĒ so youíre gonna have guys leave in this transfer portal era and with NFL careers getting shorter and shorter- guys are gonna make the jump earlier than they would have 10 years ago. Sage and Dortch leaving opened up reps for Roberson, Morin, and ATP- especially Q. Q wouldnít be getting a shot in the NFL right now if not for his opportunity coming in 2020 with Sage opting out in August.

  3. #123
    Agreed and ATP may would not have gotten the touches he got if Greene wasn't hurt.

  4. #124
    There are more plays to go around in our offense than almost any other.
    Letís get this done!

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Tobacco Road View Post
    There are more plays to go around in our offense than almost any other.
    With the Wake offense running 90 to 100 plays per game, pretty easy to get receivers 15 targets per game. Maybe more. 180 targets in a season should translate into a lot of catches, yards and TDs for multiple receivers.

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Deaconblue View Post
    With the Wake offense running 90 to 100 plays per game, pretty easy to get receivers 15 targets per game. Maybe more. 180 targets in a season should translate into a lot of catches, yards and TDs for multiple receivers.
    Donít disagree with that logic but because we spread ball around a lot more than most teams and have a unconventional system- itís unlikely a guy on our team is gonna have Heisman-level stats (LOWF bias) aside. KW3 wouldnít have had nearly those stats at WF that he had at Michigan State so itís not really comparable- but we certainly could have used him in 2021 in the games we lost. I think itís a genius strategy for WF and allows us a lot more depth than most of our peer teams that have better talent on paper and we can re-load easier than at any point in our history. But with that- you are bound to have guys transfer because of the uniqueness of the system, ie Newman and KW3. Does every program in the country deal with guys leaving? Of course - my point is that itís likely to happen again here for that reason. Iím not blaming our staff for Newman and KW3 transferring - think itís the opposite - itís a testament to how we donít just change our system for one guy. Itís opposite of Grobe system of building offense around Barclay then later Kenny Moore, and then Givens. Problem with that approach is that other teams figure it out and then you are relying on our other guys to win those matchups when they havenít had reps to do it and donít have the size/speed to begin with.

  7. #127
    Jamie scored a td Thursday on a play that was specifically designed for him. On 3rd and goal at the one (4th down US football), Newman went around left end, brushed off an arm tackle, and scored standing up.

    He needs to play in one of the two spring leagues next year.
    Charlie Davis

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    Not if he can stay on a CFL roster. USFL and XFL players are trying to get to where Newman is.

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    Not if he can stay on a CFL roster. USFL and XFL players are trying to get to where Newman is.
    Wrong. CFL 3rd string qb is no big deal. It is a different game with relatively little crossover over the years.
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    It's a steady paycheck in a league with very few spots for American players. There's no guarantee he starts for a USFL or XFL team. I don't what Newman is making but the CFL minimum is higher than the average USFL and XFL salaries. Those leagues could fold anyway.

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    Average salary in the CFL is between $60K and $100K, Canadian dollars. 2021 Salary cap was $5.3 million per team. Some of the best players in the league make $80K.

    Each USFL player makes $4500 per game (US) for 10 games, gets an extra $850 a week if they win, and gest $10,000K if they win the championship.

    Probably a wash for Newman financially, but no way he's going to last more than a couple of years as a backup QB in Canada. He needs to win a starting job quickly or he's done.

  12. #132
    Being on the field every day with coaching staff gives him a better shot at moving up in the QB hierarchy than he would have walking the street.

  13. #133
    Jamie in at qb for Hamilton on ESPN plus. Starting qb out and backup hurt. Newman quite effective running - not trusted much on passing.
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  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by DeacDoug View Post
    Jamie in at qb for Hamilton on ESPN plus. Starting qb out and backup hurt. Newman quite effective running - not trusted much on passing.
    Just turned over to it. Why is there another qb in now for Hamilton?

  15. #135
    60 yard TD pass by the other Hamilton QB. that is the pass Newman loved throwing to Surratt

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