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Amy Coney Barrett

also number one in her law school class, obviously not smart,

lubes only consider other lubes "smart", everyone else is dumb

Alot of No. 1's in their class aren't getting a sniff for this job, even those who went to better schools, so don't pretend she is getting nominated because of that. She checks boxes, and appeases the far right.

Garland was valedictorian at Harvard. Where's his hearing? Gorsuch graduated Harvard Law cum laude, should we impeach him for not being magna?
 
Senators who question her religion will look terrible and it will completely backfire. The questions that should be asked are: if you are confirmed and any case involving the 2020 election is heard by the Court, will you recuse yourself? If you are confirmed and any case involving Donald Trump's alleged financial improprieties, including access to documents or other evidence, comes before the Court, will you recuse yourself? The focus should be on demonstrating Trump's desire to turn the USSC into another branch of his undemocratic autocracy.

If the answers to both questions are not a clear "yes," every Senator has an easy explanation for their "no" vote, without attacking her credentials or religion.

If she commits to recusal under those circumstances, Trump's head will explode. Hell, he might even try to pull the nomination.
 
It is so fucked up that a president that lost the election by 3 million votes, probably cheated with foreign help to get there, was impeached in January, now gets to appoint a third justice to a life time appointment to the Supreme Court, with help form a senate majority that actually lost the popular vote by 7 million in 2018. It really doesn't matter what her qualifications are or her religion, there is definitely something wrong with this scenario.
 
Senators who question her religion will look terrible and it will completely backfire. The questions that should be asked are: if you are confirmed and any case involving the 2020 election is heard by the Court, will you recuse yourself? If you are confirmed and any case involving Donald Trump's alleged financial improprieties, including access to documents or other evidence, comes before the Court, will you recuse yourself? The focus should be on demonstrating Trump's desire to turn the USSC into another branch of his undemocratic autocracy.

If the answers to both questions are not a clear "yes," every Senator has an easy explanation for their "no" vote, without attacking her credentials or religion.

If she commits to recusal under those circumstances, Trump's head will explode. Hell, he might even try to pull the nomination.

wait, why would she have to recuse herself on any Trump financial fraud cases?
 
Senators who question her religion will look terrible and it will completely backfire. The questions that should be asked are: if you are confirmed and any case involving the 2020 election is heard by the Court, will you recuse yourself? If you are confirmed and any case involving Donald Trump's alleged financial improprieties, including access to documents or other evidence, comes before the Court, will you recuse yourself? The focus should be on demonstrating Trump's desire to turn the USSC into another branch of his undemocratic autocracy.

If the answers to both questions are not a clear "yes," every Senator has an easy explanation for their "no" vote, without attacking her credentials or religion.

If she commits to recusal under those circumstances, Trump's head will explode. Hell, he might even try to pull the nomination.

Agreed on questioning her about anything related to this Evangelical Catholic group she belongs to or her religious beliefs, as that would be a terrible look and will allow Republicans to complain of "anti-Catholic bigotry" and turn the hearings into a faux defense of "religious freedom." They should just stick to asking the questions you mentioned, as well as continuing to point out the complete flip-flop and hypocrisy of Republicans from the 2016 Garland nomination to now and that Barrett herself has said that she was not in favor of filling the seat in an election year. The Democrats should also continue to point out that 2 presidents who lost the popular vote will have appointed a majority of the Supreme Court, and Trump will have appointed a third of it. Questioning her about some of her more controversial statements on ACA, felons having the right to own guns but not vote, etc. would also be a smart move. But they need to stay as far as they can from bringing up her religion, as it's sure to backfire in the court of public opinion.
 
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wait, why would she have to recuse herself on any Trump financial fraud cases?

She's being nominated while those investigations are well under way, after the USSC paved the way for the NY County DA to obtain his financial records, and at practically the same time as the NYT story on his conflicting tax returns and public disclosures.

Roberts understands and stresses the importance of the USSC to appear non-political. Without that, public trust erodes and their rulings over time become no more than partisan statements made by politicians. Remember, the USSC does not have power to enforce their own decisions. Nominating and rushing through a justice immediately before the presidential election is one thing. Rushing through a justice with the intent that your hand-picked judge might rule on your criminal case in the near future is another. I don't think this applies to Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, who have already ruled against Trump in Vance.
 
I think there is some talk of the Dems boycotting the hearings completely. Not sure how I feel about it, but ultimately if the Dems do attend and question her the Pubs will simply condemn the Dems for "attacking" her and she'll be confirmed anyway. If the Dems boycott and claim that the process is a farce then the Pubs will condemn it as a political stunt - but at least then I can not bother with watching something that's just going to make me mad.
 
In my cases, I always advise my clients that we want to appear to be the reasonable party. Let the other side play games and act out, the fact finder will appreciate that we acted honestly and fairly. I think it works.

I would like the Democrats to take these hearings very seriously, and avoid cheap shots and stupid questions. Start the process by making a strong statement that we are only here because of the GOP's hypocrisy, and that we are confident that the American people, unlike the GOP, will put country over party and they will feel it on November 3. But then, approach the hearing honestly and tastefully. The only personal attacks that should ever be made during this process are attacks on the person nominating her, not on Barrett. Otherwise, it proves to many voters that Kavanaugh's hearing was just the Democrats' new approach, rather than a sincere concern about his qualifications.
 
Kamala Harris got a lot of praise for how she handled the other confirmation hearings, so I would imagine they want her to have her questioning
 
It’s going to be a farce in how all nomination hearings or just all hearings are a farce nowadays.

Democrats should definitely show up. Call out the pace of their response to RBG’s death compared their failure to act on COVID. Ask tough questions that highlight the importance of abortion and ACA to the Dem platform. Make any vulnerable senators look weak. Don’t mention her religion at all.
 
I’d likely confirm her if I were a senator and it weren’t a blatant hypocrisy that she’s nominated at all just before the election. That said i agree with whoever said I couldnt care less about her actual qualifications at this point because this decision doesn’t occur in a vacuum. Whether or not she’s qualified simply isn’t the issue at this confirmation hearing unfortunately.
 
Just saw this post on Facebook. I like this approach. It's not about trying to paint Barrett as a hypocrite or lay the foundation for saying she's a hypocrite when she's on the bench.
This approach is simply prosecuting the case against Trump in front of Judge Barrett. And if Kamala asks the questions, that prevents the typical grandstanding and gives her a huge showcase.












The below is attributed to Bill Svelmoe, author and associate professor of history at Saint Mary's College in Notre Dame.

“A few thoughts on Amy Coney Barrett, our new Supreme Court justice.

- As noted above, she's a done deal. So Democrats should not waste time trying to besmirch her character, focusing on her religion, trying to box her into a corner on how she will vote on hypothetical cases.

The People of Praise is not a cult. I've had half a dozen of their kids in my classes, including some men who heard about me from their female friends. Almost without fail, these have been among the best students I've ever had. Extremely bright. Careful critical thinkers. Wonderful writers. I loved having them in class. So don't go after the People of Praise.

By all accounts Barrett walks on water. I've heard that in a roundabout way from people I know at Notre Dame, including from folks as liberal as me, who actually look forward to seeing her on the court. I have no first hand knowledge of her, but take the above for what you will.

So Democrats should not take a typical approach with her.

- Stay focused on the election. If the election were tomorrow, Biden wins comfortably, and the Democrats likely take the Senate as well. The latest polls were taken after RBG's death. No gain for Trump. In fact the majority of Americans think the Supreme Court seat should not be filled until after the election. Watching Republicans ram Barrett through helps Democrats. So don't mess with her. Let Republicans do what they're going to do. As a great man once said, It is what it is.

If the Democrats take the presidency and the Senate, none of this matters much. A Democratic administration will not let a conservative court mess with Democratic priorities. Lots of avenues, including adding justices, passing a law that no act of Congress can be overturned by the Court except by a seven vote majority, etc. So keep the focus where it matters. On November 3.

So how should Democrats approach these hearings? I've seen one good suggestion today. Turn all their time over to Kamala Harris. I like that one.

Here's a few more suggestions.

- Don't show up for the hearings. There is no reason to dignify this raw exercise in political hypocrisy. Don't legitimize the theft of a Supreme Court seat with your presence. This also shows Barrett that the nation knows she is letting herself become a pawn in Trump's game. That in itself says something about character.

- Schedule high interest alternate programming directly opposite the hearings. Bring together all 26 of the women who have accused Trump of sexual assault. Let them tell their stories on air. Or interview liberal justices that Biden will add to the court next year. Hearings with only Republicans extolling Barrett's virtues will get low ratings. It shouldn't be hard to come up with something people would rather watch. Hell, replay the Kavanaugh hearings! Bring in Matt Damon to reprise his role on SNL! I'd watch that! How about a show "Beers with Squee"?!

- If Democrats do attend the hearings, they should not focus on Barrett's views on any future cases. She'll just dodge those questions anyway. They're hypothetical. She should dodge them. Don't even mention her religion.

Instead Democrats should focus on the past four years of the Trump administration. This has been the most corrupt administration in American history. No need for hypotheticals. The questions are all right there.

Judge Barrett, would you please explain the emoluments clause in the Constitution. [She does.] Judge Barrett, if a president were to refuse to divest himself of his properties and, in fact, continue to steer millions of dollars of tax payer money to his properties, would this violate the emoluments clause?

Then simply go down the list of specific cases in which Trump and his family of grifters have used the presidency to enrich themselves. Ask her repeatedly if this violates the emoluments clause. Include of course using the American ambassador to Britain to try to get the British Open golf tournament at a Trump property. Judge Barrett, does this violate the emoluments clause?

Then turn to the Hatch Act.

Judge Barrett, would you please explain the Hatch Act to the American people. [She does.] Judge Barrett, did Kellyanne Conway violate the Hatch Act on these 60 occasions?
[List them. Then after Barrett's response, and just fyi, the Office of the Special Council already convicted her, ask Barrett this.] When Kellyanne Conway, one of the president's top advisors openly mocked the Hatch Act after violating it over 60 times, should she have been removed from office?

Then turn to all the other violations of the Hatch Act during the Republican Convention. Get Barrett's opinion on those.

Then turn to Congressional Oversight.

Judge Barrett, would you please explain to the American people the duties of Congress, according to the Constitution, to oversee the executive branch. [She does so.] Judge Barrett, when the Trump administration refuses time and again
[list them] to respond to a subpoena from Congress, is this an obstruction of the constitutional duty of Congress for oversight? Is this an obstruction of justice?

Then turn to Trump's impeachment.

Read the transcript of Trump's phone call. Judge Barrett, would you describe this as a "perfect phone call"? Is there anything about this call that troubles you, as a judge, or as an American?

Judge Barrett, would you please define for the American people the technical definition of collusion. [She does.] Then go through all of the contacts between the Trump administration and Russians during the election and get her opinion on whether these amount to collusion. Doesn't matter how she answers. It gets Trump's perfidy back in front of Americans right before the election.

Such questions could go on for days. Get her opinion on the evidence for election fraud. Go through all the Trump "laws" that have been thrown out by the courts. Ask her about the separation of children from their parents at the border. And on and on and on through the worst and most corrupt administration in our history. Don't forget to ask her opinion on the evidence presented by the 26 Trump accusers. Judge Barrett, do you think this is enough evidence of sexual assault to bring the perpetrator before a court of law? Do you think a sitting president should be able to postpone such cases until after his term? Judge Barrett, let's listen again, shall we, to Trump's "Access Hollywood" tape. I don't have a question. I just want to hear it again. Or maybe, as a woman, how do you feel listening to this recording? Let's listen to it again, shall we. Take your time.

Taking this approach does a number of things.

1. Even if Barrett bobs and weaves and dodges all of this, it reminds Americans right before the election of just how awful this administration has been.

2. None of these questions are hypothetical. They are all real documented incidents. The vast majority are pretty obvious examples of breaking one law or the other. If Barrett refuses to answer honestly, she demonstrates that she is willing to simply be another Trump toady. Any claims to high moral Christian character are shown to be as empty as the claims made by the 80% of white evangelicals who continue to support Trump.

3. If she answers honestly, as I rather suspect she would, then Americans get to watch Trump and his lawless administration convicted by Trump's own chosen justice.

Any of these outcomes would go much further toward delegitimizing the entire Republican project than if Democrats go down the typical road of asking hypothetical questions or trying to undermine her character.

Use her supposed good character and keen legal mind against the administration that has nominated her. Let her either convict Trump or embarrass herself by trying to weasel out of convicting Trump. Either way, it'll be great television ...”
 
I think people should worry a lot less about who is doing the nominating and just focus on who the nominee is. Souter, John Paul Stephens, Kennedy, and Roberts were all nominated by Republicans, and none of them wound up being great enemies to liberal legislation or social objectives. You never know how these people are going to turn out once they sit down on the court. Sure, this lady seems to be a female version of Scalia, but that's not all bad. Scalia was a great judge and his influence on the legal field can hardly be overstated.

I don't really buy the argument that the President has some duty to wait until the election is decided to fill the seat, and I also don't think the Republicans are being hypocrites by going forward with the nomination. They have the power, they aren't using it in a way that is counter to the Constitution, and to me that's just the end of the debate. Democrats should just console themselves with the knowledge that once the shoe is on the other foot someday they will do the same, and I think we all know the Democrats would do exactly what the Republicans are doing now if they were in the same circumstances. They weren't able to in 2016 because they didn't have the votes in the senate; if they had, Garland would be on the court instead of Kavanaugh and I don't think anyone would think twice about that.

I personally think the Republicans were out of line in 2016 by refusing to fill a seat for 8 months, but I guess the American people had a chance to decide whether it bothered them at the ballot box and it seems like it didn't (or at least it didn't bother them more than the idea of Hillary being President). Then again, maybe that's just indicative that the court is a bigger deal to extremists on either side and not that big a deal to the rest of the country.
 
I think people should worry a lot less about who is doing the nominating and just focus on who the nominee is. Souter, John Paul Stephens, Kennedy, and Roberts were all nominated by Republicans, and none of them wound up being great enemies to liberal legislation or social objectives. You never know how these people are going to turn out once they sit down on the court. Sure, this lady seems to be a female version of Scalia, but that's not all bad. Scalia was a great judge and his influence on the legal field can hardly be overstated.

I don't really buy the argument that the President has some duty to wait until the election is decided to fill the seat, and I also don't think the Republicans are being hypocrites by going forward with the nomination. They have the power, they aren't using it in a way that is counter to the Constitution, and to me that's just the end of the debate. Democrats should just console themselves with the knowledge that once the shoe is on the other foot someday they will do the same, and I think we all know the Democrats would do exactly what the Republicans are doing now if they were in the same circumstances. They weren't able to in 2016 because they didn't have the votes in the senate; if they had, Garland would be on the court instead of Kavanaugh and I don't think anyone would think twice about that.

I personally think the Republicans were out of line in 2016 by refusing to fill a seat for 8 months, but I guess the American people had a chance to decide whether it bothered them at the ballot box and it seems like it didn't (or at least it didn't bother them more than the idea of Hillary being President). Then again, maybe that's just indicative that the court is a bigger deal to extremists on either side and not that big a deal to the rest of the country.

sort of assumes the current process of election(s) is fair and representative
 
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