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  1. #121
    Not really.

    They are physicians.

    Some Iíve worked with are some of the best.
    I love mankind...itís people I canít stand!!

  2. #122
    Now, anyone desiring to be the WH physician under Trump has to have screw loose.
    I love mankind...itís people I canít stand!!

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    Hadn't seen this posted here:
    The White House relied on a rapid test, but used it in a way it was not intended.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/02/u...-intended.html

    For months, the White Houseís strategy for keeping President Trump and his inner circle safe has been to screen all White House visitors with a rapid test.
    But one product they use, Abbottís ID Now, was never intended for that purpose and is known to deliver incorrect results. In issuing an emergency use authorization, the Food and Drug Administration said the test was only to be used by a health care provider ďwithin the first seven days of symptoms.Ē
    The ID Now has several qualities in its favor: Itís portable, doesnít need skilled technicians to operate and delivers results in 15 minutes. Used to evaluate someone with symptoms, the test can quickly and easily diagnose Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.
    But in people who are infected but not yet showing symptoms, the test is much less accurate, missing as many as one in three cases.


  4. #124
    Sure, there can be good ones. But their practice was still founded on the theory that massage can cure all disease, and if I'm going to get COVID odds are it's going to be from my secretary who also thinks enough vitamin D can cure all disease and takes public transit every day. Just cause you know some good DO's it doesn't mean that anything associated with quack science should be the lead doctor taking care of the POTUS. Is it better than nothing in rural areas or in a world with more patients than real doctors? Sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafi View Post
    It's interesting that Trump is not taking hydroxychloroquine. I guess he gave up on that idea but forgot to tell his supporters?

    Obviously the medical community mainly moved on from hydroxychloroquine months ago (because there is no evidence that it works), but there are still studies being completed and published. Last week a study came out in Lancet Rheumatology that looked at 30,000 patients with rheumatologic disease - 10,000 on hydroxychloroquine for their rheumatologic disease and 20,000 not on hydroxychloroquine. The percent that became infected with COVID did not differ between the two groups. A randomized trial also came out in JAMA last week looking at hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic medication in healthcare workers, and no benefit was detected.
    If the President Trump would just consult Dr. Knowell, he would already be healed!

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    Some good analysis here:

    How the White House is trying to convince America that Trumpís illness isnít a big deal

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...isnt-big-deal/

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    Quote Originally Posted by stugotz View Post
    It's like calling Wake and Bake a Deac and not the Public School Filth that he truly is.
    Itís WakeandBake. Now go pop your collar, penny loafer boy

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    Some good analysis here:

    How the White House is trying to convince America that Trumpís illness isnít a big deal

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...isnt-big-deal/
    Very few are going to think he's fine until he spends some time talking to people live, because he loves talking to people live and because it's so close to the election.

    I also found it interesting today that the doc admitted there were two separate times his oxygen levels dropped, as there was also a good 8 hour break from tweeting yesterday, so if I had to guess it's happened to him two days in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stugotz View Post
    Very few are going to think he's fine until he spends some time talking to people live, because he loves talking to people live and because it's so close to the election.

    I also found it interesting today that the doc admitted there were two separate times his oxygen levels dropped, as there was also a good 8 hour break from tweeting yesterday, so if I had to guess it's happened to him two days in a row.
    I agree. That's why it's important to call out these futile attempts by the administration to make it seem like it's not a big deal.

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by ConnorEl View Post
    Not really.

    They are physicians.

    Some Iíve worked with are some of the best.
    Please post their credentials.
    Birds are real.

  11. #131
    Look, I donít have a dog in this fight other than attempting to correct misperceptions.

    Itís absolutely an error to assume that DOís are inferior physicians or surgeons.

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    From everything Iíve seen, Trump seems like heís probably doing reasonably well. Odds are he gets through this OK.

    But thatís not a certainty, for sure.

    Weíll see.
    I love mankind...itís people I canít stand!!

  12. #132
    Well that's one way to change the no income tax story

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    Whereís Brad been the past couple of days?

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    Reasonable well for you meaning heís not going to die because thatís about as far as Iíd go, and even that isnít like 100%. Heís now taken two experimental drugs and a third that would only be given if he has progressed to pneumonia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stugotz View Post
    Well that's one way to change the no income tax story
    LolÔŅĹ

    Hmmmmm....
    I love mankind...itís people I canít stand!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Gossett Jr View Post
    Reasonable well for you meaning heís not going to die because thatís about as far as Iíd go, and even that isnít like 100%. Heís now taken two experimental drugs and a third that would only be given if he has progressed to pneumonia.

    I suspect his treatment isnít exactly conforming to usual protocols.

    Which could actually work against him.
    I love mankind...itís people I canít stand!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Gossett Jr View Post
    Reasonable well for you meaning heís not going to die because thatís about as far as Iíd go, and even that isnít like 100%. Heís now taken two experimental drugs and a third that would only be given if he has progressed to pneumonia.
    What's the 2nd experimental drug? Isn't Dexa and remdesivir both the most two commonly prescribed/understood drugs?

  18. #138
    Hydroxychloroquine!
    semi-aquatic like otters be.

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    It's really telling about how even most of the media has grown weary of this White House that on the Sunday morning talk shows they were pretty openly discussing how difficult it is to know the president's actual condition because nobody trusts anyone in this administration to tell the truth about his condition. I think Peggy Noonan on MTP said something like "well, we don't really know how the president is doing because we can't trust the information that they are sending out, and the information we are getting is contradictory."

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    Quote Originally Posted by stugotz View Post
    What's the 2nd experimental drug? Isn't Dexa and remdesivir both the most two commonly prescribed/understood drugs?
    Iím counting Remdesivir as experimental since it was technically never designed for Covid and still operates under a EUA. In the we will give things the antiviral and antibodies are fine throw it all the wall but I think steroids isnít something that any one of his doctors is going to give lightly, you are now playing the immune modulatory game and itís not something to play with unless necessary.

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