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Official Election Month Thread: COUP falls short, nothing to see here

What's Left To Count
We’re going to take a bit of a break on the live blog until this evening to actually feed ourselves, bathe, etc. Here’s where things stand in the presidential race in the key remaining states:

Where we’re expecting more data tonight:

Arizona: Biden currently leads here by 68,129 votes, but there are around 430,000 left to count, according to KNXV-TV analyst Garrett Archer. We are expected to get more results from Pima County (Tucson) early this evening and from Maricopa County (the Phoenix area, where the bulk of the uncounted ballots are) at 9 p.m. Eastern. It’s unclear whether we’ll get a projection here. (Some outlets, such as Fox News, have already projected Arizona for Biden, but most media outlets have not, including our colleagues at ABC News.) But so far, Trump has been gaining in late-counted ballots, but there is reason to think that may not be true going forward.

Dribs and drabs, but we’re watching closely:

Pennsylvania: Trump currently leads Biden by 108,367 votes here, but that lead has been narrowing as more ballots have been counted. Approximately 340,000 mail-in votes are left to count, and the secretary of state said earlier on CNN that she thought the networks would be able to project a winner here today, but we don’t really have a good sense yet of timing: The outstanding votes have been trickling in slowly.

Georgia: Trump currently leads here by a razor-thin margin (12,768 votes) with 47,277 ballots left to count. Most of those are expected to be counted today, but at least one county (Chatham, where about 17,000 ballots are outstanding) says it will need until tomorrow. So whether we’ll get a projection here later today is murky, too.
No big updates until tomorrow — or later:

Nevada: After a recent update, Biden still leads here by 11,438 votes. Although about 140,000 late-arriving mail ballots or provisional ballots have yet to be counted, these ballots are expected to lean Democratic. Clark County (home of Las Vegas), where 90 percent of the outstanding ballots are, will release its next update on Friday and should have the bulk of the counting done this weekend.

North Carolina: North Carolina has counted every ballot it had in its possession as of Tuesday, and Trump leads by 76,737 votes among them. However, the state has announced that about 117,000 mail-in ballots and 40,766 provisional ballots are potentially outstanding, although not all of them will count. Mail-in ballots have until Nov. 12 to arrive, and only at that point will more results be released.
 
buckets said:
and your 401k is a damn passive investment that benefits from compound interest over 20-30+ years

a single fucking president shouldn't make or break will not break your retirement
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unless they steal it and give it to mexicans !
 
 
she's right. The ideas are good, but the words "defund police" and "socialist democrats" or whatever are godawful marketing/messaging.

be smarter
 
What portion of the Democrats have been pushing "socialist democrats" or "democratic socialists?" The issue, like always, is Republicans are better at playing and sticking to the sound bite game while Democrats struggle to consistently push a message. Yes the defund police part is awful messaging and it came about from grassroots groups, but the Democrats at large needed to remold that message.
 
buckets said:
and your 401k is a damn passive investment that benefits from compound interest over 20-30+ years

a single fucking president shouldn't make or break will not break your retirement
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Got make sure you're hitting those targeted allocations.

If he is actually living off that 401(k) market volatility should have very little impact.
 
Haven't been following for the last couple of hours, but CNN is saying only 85k to 95k mail in ballots left in Philadelphia county? That seems bad for Biden.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
What portion of the Democrats have been pushing "socialist democrats" or "democratic socialists?" The issue, like always, is Republicans are better at playing and sticking to the sound bite game while Democrats struggle to consistently push a message. Yes the defund police part is awful messaging and it came about from grassroots groups, but the Democrats at large needed to remold that message.
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agreed. same with "healthcare." You're not really doing anything with healthcare, you're trying to cut out the middle-man (the insurers - I think, I mean maybe someone wants government doctors). If you just said 'we're getting rid of insurance companies," it'd probably go over better.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
What portion of the Democrats have been pushing "socialist democrats" or "democratic socialists?" The issue, like always, is Republicans are better at playing and sticking to the sound bite game while Democrats struggle to consistently push a message. Yes the defund police part is awful messaging and it came about from grassroots groups, but the Democrats at large needed to remold that message.
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agree completely.

I'm not in Marketing and I could message that better.

I thought bernie and AOC were the "Democratic Socialists" and used that moniker openly, no?
 
buckets said:
what kind of ppl in NC voted for Cooper and Trump
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He’s an incumbent Dem who proved he wasn’t a “socialist.”

deactherunner said:
Sounds like requesting foreign interference to me.
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Pretty sure God is American just like his son White Jesus.

BillBrasky said:
Yep saw that. The problem with that argument is that progressive ballot initiatives do better than centrist Democratic political candidates.
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And progressive Democratic political candidates. The policies are good but the Democrat brand is problematic and the word “socialism” is toxic. Ditch the word and run hard on the policies. Focus on helping people in their everyday struggle.

WakeandBake said:
she's right. The ideas are good, but the words "defund police" and "socialist democrats" or whatever are godawful marketing/messaging.

be smarter
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Yeah. I hate to say it but it’s true. Hide radical change behind milquetoast words like “reform.”

I posted this on the Political Chat thread but it applies to this discussion as well. The FL $15 minimum wage amendment got 50% support in 33 of 67 counties including counties Trump won big.

https://floridapolitics.com/archive...imum-wage-push-may-have-shown-democrats-a-way

People like Trump because they think he’s making their lives better. They think he’s doing good things. And they believe that because they are inundated with right-wing messaging telling them this. There’s no counter message explaining how Republicans are hurting them. There’s room for Democrats to actually do things to help people and create a media infrastructure to convince people that it’s actually happening.
 
 
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