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Official Election Month Thread: COUP falls short, nothing to see here

ChrisL68 said:
Perhaps we should nominate a progressive and have you invest your heart and soul into him and have him get destroyed so I can come here the next day and insult you.
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what do you think you've been doing since 2015
 
MHBDemon said:
Good time to remind everyone that ChrisL is a landlord. Lol.
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DeacsPop said:
So typical. "Our side has done all the great things accomplished in America and you've done nothing"

I won't even dignify that question with a response.
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- Ending slavery
- Giving minorities and women the right to vote
- Pulling America out of every recession and depression caused by austerity policies from conservatives
- Social Security
- Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act
- Ending segregation
- Broadening access to health care for low-income Americans

All of these liberal policies. All of these opposed vehemently by conservatives.
 
BTW 150k people voted libertarian/green in NC senate race (meanwhile only 30k voted this way for president). Fuck you Cal.
 
Hey, if you think that's a winning message in a country with a rugged individualism ethos, then please double down on it. Personally, i believe that plays right into Donald Trump's fear mongering that the left will turn the US into breadlines like Russia or Venezuela. There was a reason that he, effectively, campaigned against Bernie Sanders even though he wasn't even in the race.

I inherited a 1/3rd ownership in some rental properties from my parents that provide about 3% of my yearly income and take up much more than 3% of my working time. I also managed these properties for my parents for free for over 10 years. If one of our tenants couldn't pay rent, it would be annoying but wouldn't impact my standard of living at all.

Most small landlords that would a devastating financial blow.
 
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Is there some way to decouple policies from the political parties? More ballot measures like the minimum wage in Florida. Just get people voting for stuff instead of their team.
 
Highland Deac said:
This country isn't "leaning towards the left" - as the election showed it's actually leaning hard right if anything. Joe Biden is hardly a socialist and the Democratic Party as a whole isn't close to being socialist or radical, as conversations on this board between progressive and centrist Democrats shows over and over. If the Democratic Party were as far left as Republicans claim then Bernie would easily have won the Democratic nomination in 2016 and this year, or at least Elizabeth Warren. And the GOP handling of this pandemic has been a disaster and will almost certainly go down in the history books as such. Had Trump handled this better we would be reopening like many other countries did weeks or months ago. Trump hasn't been stronger on the economy, as his trade wars and growing wealth gap shows. Nobody ever said that the GOP wasn't "alive and breathing" - it is, and has been for awhile, the dominant political party in this country, certainly at the congressional and state levels, and now in the Supreme Court and federal judiciary.
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I'm surprised that you don't believe that the thought the Country was being overly influenced by the Left, was not a major factor in voters pulling the Pub lever across the Country.
No argument about Biden, but the fact that Sanders and the Squad continued to speak to their upcoming "opportunities" in a new Administration, alienated millions.
And though I believe most Pubs feel that Trump could have done so many things better in handling the pandemic, it just wasn't a strong enough to have them switch to Biden.
 
tiltdeac said:
Is there some way to decouple policies from the political parties? More ballot measures like the minimum wage in Florida. Just get people voting for stuff instead of their team.
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posted earlier, but even in Democrat-heavy Illinois, progressive income tax failed as a ballot measure

state's richest man poured over $50 million into the campaign against it

California is a big ballot measure state -- not sure which states are set up for a strong progressive measure approach
 
DeacsPop said:
I'm surprised that you don't believe that the thought the Country was being overly influenced by the Left, was not a major factor in voters pulling the Pub lever across the Country.
No argument about Biden, but the fact that Sanders and the Squad continued to speak to their upcoming "opportunities" in a new Administration, alienated millions.
And though I believe most Pubs feel that Trump could have done so many things better in handling the pandemic, it just wasn't a strong enough to have them switch to Biden.
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“I don’t know if you’re aware, but a bunch of the people across the country who think like me are fucking morons”
 
Democrats really need someone who can effectively champion good policy and convince folks it’s not some mad rush to “communism” or government “takeover”.

Of those mentioned, see Buttigieg as probably having the best skill in this.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
posted earlier, but even in Democrat-heavy Illinois, progressive income tax failed as a ballot measure

state's richest man poured over $50 million into the campaign against it

California is a big ballot measure state -- not sure which states are set up for a strong progressive measure approach
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Even in DC, our completely Democratic council overturned a ballot initiative that would have gotten rid of the tipped wage.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
is Jeff Jackson the presumed frontrunner for the Dems 2022 Senate race?
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I sure hope so.

ChrisL68 said:
Hey, if you think that's a winning message in a country with a rugged individualism ethos, then please double down on it. Personally, i believe that plays right into Donald Trump's fear mongering that the left will turn the US into breadlines like Russia or Venezuela. There was a reason that he, effectively, campaigned against Bernie Sanders even though he wasn't even in the race.
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I mean Trump did better than the polls said, but it still looks like he's going to lose and do so by losing 4+ states he won last time. So it wasn't that effective.
 
am i crazy that NC could actually flip biden? Trump up 80k but looks like maybe 300-400k votes still to count? unlikely but not impossible?
 
DeacsPop said:
So typical. "Our side has done all the great things accomplished in America and you've done nothing"

I won't even dignify that question with a response.
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you won’t dignify that question with a respond because you don’t have one
 
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