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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheCaptain View Post
    what year did you drop out of college
    2012 as a freshman
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    Quote Originally Posted by dstanleywfu View Post
    2012 as a freshman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manifest Destiny View Post
    Are you a cute girl?
    haha nah that would make life easier though. For the most part I got lucky and landed a good paying job in a good company that treats employees well.
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  4. #384
    They don't teach a/an distinctions at dropout, do they?

    Being an asshole aside, I do agree that encouraging kids to go to school later in life would be good for many people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dstanleywfu View Post
    haha nah that would make life easier though. For the most part I got lucky and landed a good paying job in a good company that treats employees well.
    What industry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manifest Destiny View Post
    What industry?
    I work for Time Warner
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    Quote Originally Posted by dstanleywfu View Post
    I work for Time Warner
    Right on. Side note - Davie County might lead the nation in 15-20 pounds overweight dental hygienists per capita. My kind of women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manifest Destiny View Post
    Right on. Side note - Davie County might lead the nation in 15-20 pounds overweight dental hygienists per capita. My kind of women.
    haha the dentist i use to go to in davie before I moved to the beach had massage chairs.. that was a bonus
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  9. #389
    Quote Originally Posted by WFcatamount22 View Post
    The problem is most history majors are working the same shitty jobs as the kids who didn't graduate. Waiting table's with a history degree and paying off student loans is far worse than just waiting tables.
    Economically short term it is much worse, but you shouldn't discount the sociological value of a college education and diploma. There are always going to be doors and windows that open for college graduates that don't open for non.
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    I agree that college is not the best route for everyone and I have enormous admiration for two clients in particular that have built amazing businesses without a college degree. (One actually dropped out of high school). But for people that work for companies rather than start companies, there is a higher risk when it comes time to find a new job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myDeaconmyhand View Post
    Economically short term it is much worse, but you shouldn't discount the sociological value of a college education and diploma. There are always going to be doors and windows that open for college graduates that don't open for non.
    Meh, you know what has more sociological value? Shit tons of straight cash homie

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMCDeac View Post
    I agree that college is not the best route for everyone and I have enormous admiration for two clients in particular that have built amazing businesses without a college degree. (One actually dropped out of high school). But for people that work for companies rather than start companies, there is a higher risk when it comes time to find a new job.
    Exactly. You're much more likely to hear about the people without degrees who are successful. But I would bet that in reality, there are tons more people out there with CC or trade degrees that are struggling along.

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    http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomlinds...ion-deception/

    Confirmation of the obscene inflation in college tuition, as if anyone didn't know.

    At the WFU level, I can't help but cringe at the self-defeating idea of a "Pro Humanitate Institute". http://news.wfu.edu/2015/01/14/media...ate-institute/ If WFU was concerned about Pro Humanitate (as I view the concept), I suggest they would do better by hiring fewer admins and concentrating on the pressing human issue of keeping tuition affordable.

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    Good article overall. The stuff about administrators and faculty were dead on.

    It stumbles when the author tries to add his two cents. While I agree a larger federal role isn't necessarily the answer, this seems to be a blind belief in the states.

    Finally, although Mussano and Iosue are doubtless correct that the federal government must have a role in acquiring this needed national data, the implementation of performance-based funding formulas based on these data should be left to the states, not to the federal government, which has shown itself to be less than reliable in this area.
    States aren't going to effectively police their own institutions except to exert political power. Legislatures are largely made up of grads from State U. and State State. The public schools that lack representation will suffer. Also, people don't decide where they're going to school solely within state lines so unique standards for each state aren't going to help to compare North State U. and South State U. to SW State U.

    Another issue is students largely like the college experiences they're getting. They like the fancy rec centers. They like the vegan options at the dining hall. The institution that scales back luxuries and administrators who provide those luxuries risk losing the fight to get the best students. The truth is the top students are like Harry Giles. They're going to be great wherever they go to college and they're going to do fine once they leave. The top students help the university more than vice versa. As long as those students name the game they want to play, everybody else will play it.

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    Just jumping in here; did anyone else not realize that Brian Williams (NBC anchor) dropped out of school after completing only 18 credits? While he says it's his biggest regret, I was quite amazed to hear that.

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    Wake makes Princeton's list of colleges that pay you back
    http://m.bizjournals.com/triad/blog/...at.html?r=full

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeacsPop View Post
    Just jumping in here; did anyone else not realize that Brian Williams (NBC anchor) dropped out of school after completing only 18 credits? While he says it's his biggest regret, I was quite amazed to hear that.
    Now he can go back and finish. I don't think this is entirely correct though. I thought he had an associate's degree from the community college across the street from where I grew up.

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    weird to regret dropping out of school and ending up making millions (despite losing his job for a dumb Fish tale). sounds like something you say to interviewers to sound humble

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheCaptain View Post
    weird to regret dropping out of school and ending up making millions (despite losing his job for a dumb Fish tale). sounds like something you say to interviewers to sound humble
    Just another lie, ITC, just another lie.

    "Man, I really wish I had gone to college instead of head down my career path that ended with a 8 figure annual salary." said no one ever.

  20. #400
    Good article, refuting the notion that life is ruined if you didn't get into the overpriced private university or declined the invitation for soul-crushing debt. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/op...nion&smtyp=cur

    "Midway through last year, I looked up the undergraduate alma maters of the chief executives of the top 10 corporations in the Fortune 500. These were the schools: the University of Arkansas; the University of Texas; the University of California, Davis; the University of Nebraska; Auburn; Texas A & M; the General Motors Institute (now called Kettering University); the University of Kansas; the University of Missouri, St. Louis; and Dartmouth College."

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