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    if we're talking about strategic bombing = mass murder, Churchill, Le May and FDR are far worse than Truman but sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHBDemon View Post
    George Bush says hello. Harry Truman too. Probably others.
    There's a difference between a war and Covid.

    I'm not saying W wasn't historically awful and never should have gone into Iraq, but it's not the same.

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    IMHO, one part of American exceptionalism has been the ability of American people to put aside differences in the face of a common enemy. This happened numerous times in history. In these instances there was general agreement between the political leadership and the technical experts on the course of action.

    In the current situation with the Corona virus, the political leadership and the medical experts diverged early on. If Trump had made a "wear your mask" speech last spring and then done it when in public, millions of people might not have gotten sick. Many thousands would not have died early.

    And Trump would still be president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheCaptain View Post
    if we're talking about strategic bombing = mass murder, Churchill, Le May and FDR are far worse than Truman but sure.
    Truman is the most efficient​ mass murderer.

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    IMHO, one part of American exceptionalism has been the ability of American people to put aside differences in the face of a common enemy. This happened numerous times in history. In these instances there was general agreement between the political leadership and the technical experts on the course of action.

    In the current situation with the Corona virus, the political leadership and the medical experts diverged early on. If Trump had made a "wear your mask" speech last spring and then done it when in public, millions of people might not have gotten sick. Many thousands would not have died early.

    And Trump would still be president.
    Uniting against a common enemy is in no way unique to America. Itís literally human nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheCaptain View Post
    if we're talking about strategic bombing = mass murder, Churchill, Le May and FDR are far worse than Truman but sure.
    Churchill was not American, so this is yet another way in which America is not all that exceptional.
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    Amazon Is Forcing Its Warehouse Workers Into Brutal 'Megacycle' Shifts

    On January 25, hundreds of workers at an Amazon warehouse in Chicago were presented with a baffling choice: sign up for a ten-and-a-half-hour graveyard shift, or lose your job.

    Management informed workers that their warehouse, known as DCH1, would be shut down, and they were being offered a shift that runs from 1:20am to 11:50am, which is known as "megacycle," at a new Chicago warehouse.

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    The ultimatum presented to workers at DCH1 reflects a broader strategy in the U.S. for Amazon. The company has been quietly transitioning warehouse workers at delivery stations nationwide to the "megacycle" shift in recent months. The megacycle shift collapses shorter shifts into one 10-hour shift that begins around 1 am and ends around lunchtime. It's unclear where the term megacycle originated but it's used by both managers and workers to describe 10-hour graveyard shifts, workers tell Motherboard. An Amazon spokesperson told Motherboard that more than half of its last-mile delivery network has already transitioned to the new model.

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    The National Employment Law Project found in a 2020 report on workplaces injuries in Amazon warehouses is twice that of the national average for the warehouse industry.

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    "Megacycle isn't not just bad for lifestyle reasons," a warehouse worker at a delivery station in Queens, New York and a member of the group Amazonians United NYC, told Motherboard. "It's bad for your body. I don't think everyone can handle this."

    "If I work more than eight hours, it takes a day and a half to recover, and I'm a very fit person," they continued. "Amazon work can be so demanding that Jeff Bezos doesn't just own your time at work; he owns your entire weekend that you're in bed recovering so you can go back to the warehouse."
    semi-aquatic like otters be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdman View Post
    Churchill was not American, so this is yet another way in which America is not all that exceptional.
    well, Churchill's mom was american and he received honorary citizenship on top of that. so basically double American

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    It's crystal clear that you both vehemently disagree with the concept of American exceptionalism and don't have the first clue what it actually means.
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    Capitalism

    So by your definition, who is America exceptional for? Is there a threshold for how many people should feel like things are exceptional? When was America the most exceptional?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WakeBored View Post
    It's crystal clear that you both vehemently disagree with the concept of American exceptionalism and don't have the first clue what it actually means.
    Are we flourishing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MHBDemon View Post
    George Bush says hello. Harry Truman too. Probably others.
    Cute. Keep Harry S's name our of your mouth if you are that ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheCaptain View Post
    if we're talking about strategic bombing = mass murder, Churchill, Le May and FDR are far worse than Truman but sure.
    Get ready for some stupid revisionist bullshit.

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    Wake History & World Religion Professor E. Mowbray Tate was on the USS Missouri when the peace treaty ending WWII was signed.

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    I mean objectively Truman ordered the deaths of a lot of people

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarcaDeac View Post
    I mean objectively Truman ordered the deaths of a lot of people
    Yes, he did while knowing if he didn't drop those bombs the Japanese would not have surrendered and we would have lost hundreds of thousands of US soldiers and millions more Japanese would have died when we invaded. It was one of the most awful decisions any POTUS has ever had to make.

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    That study seems to be about as a useful expenditure as studying why people try to escape from jail.

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