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    Bullshit Andrew Cuomo says

    Fuck this guy.

    “When I say ‘experts’ in air quotes, it sounds like I’m saying I don’t really trust the experts,” Mr. Cuomo said at a news conference on Friday, referring to scientific expertise at all levels of government during the pandemic. “Because I don’t. Because I don’t.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/01/n...ials-quit.html

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    Remember last year when people were saying this guy should run for President ?

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    How many Emmy's did that bro win? Like 3 or something?

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    Talk about (another) politician I have zero use for.

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    State of NY Covid cases:


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    The news isn't getting any better for the Governor:
    https://www.politico.com/newsletters...ers-lag-491741

    "Cuomo’s top aide, Melissa DeRosa, told Democratic state legislators in a virtual meeting on Wednesday that the administration “froze” out of fear that the data would “be used against us” by federal prosecutors under the Trump administration."

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/nichola...h=3cb9950d3db0
    "Prominent New York state Democrats condemned Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) and his administration Friday after reports revealed the state significantly underreported the death toll of Covid in the state's nursing homes, a move Cuomo aides say were apparently made for political purposes.

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    he's basically Trump. must be a NY thing. seems most male NY politicians suck -- Trump, Rudy, Spitzer, Cuomo, Schumer, Bloomberg, De Blasio, etc.

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    The difference is I don't know a single person who likes him, while Trump has been exalted to demi-god status.

    Obviously SOMEBODY is voting for him, I just don't know who.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonwolverine View Post
    The difference is I don't know a single person who likes him, while Trump has been exalted to demi-god status.

    Obviously SOMEBODY is voting for him, I just don't know who.
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    About a year ago, there were only two leaders being forced to publicly deal with this crisis. Trump was downplaying it. Cuomo was addressing it. That was the contrast. Cuomo got credit for addressing it.

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    Cuomo *addressed* it all right while the MSM and many libs were jerking him off under the table.

    *addressed* = Mandating nursing homes accept the readmission of COVID positive patients from the hospital and then purposely underreporting the death toll to mask his colossal policy fuckup.

    All the while claiming other states (*cough* Florida *cough*) were withholding or suppressing the data.

    Always projecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Angus View Post
    Cuomo *addressed* it all right while the MSM and many libs were jerking him off under the table.

    *addressed* = Mandating nursing homes accept the readmission of COVID positive patients from the hospital and then purposely underreporting the death toll to mask his colossal policy fuckup.

    All the while claiming other states (*cough* Florida *cough*) were withholding or suppressing the data.

    Always projecting.
    Lolz. Not that it excuses Cuomo in any way, but Florida likely was withholding data. You do love you some DeSantis, don't you?

    Link: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...th-data-report

    Link: https://www.salon.com/2020/12/16/des...d-death-tally/

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    The discrepancy was discovered by a University of South Florida professor, according to The South Florida Sun-Sentinel. Jason Salemi, an epidemiologist at the University of South Florida, said he was "surprised" by the gap but "drew no conclusions," according to the report, noting that Florida's death data "continues to be a bit of a black box."
    Hahaha - No conclusions drawn from the USF professor. Just surprise. That's some serious science-ing going on at USF.

    With this impressive sourcing, I'm surprised the salon article didn't quote the COVID "scientist" Rebekah Jones on twitter. Oh wait... it did a few paragraphs later:

    Earlier this year, the state also ousted Rebekah Jones, a data scientist who helped build the Florida Department of Health's coronavirus data dashboard. Jones claimed that the firing was retribution for her refusal to "manipulate" the coronavirus data to justify the state's early reopening in the spring, which DeSantis has denied. Earlier this month, armed state police raided Jones' home with their guns drawn to seize her computer and electronic devices that she claimed contained evidence of "corruption."

    State officials claimed that DeSantis was unaware of the raid before it happened and that Jones was suspected of improperly accessing the state's internal emergency communication system to urge first responders and others to "speak up before another 17,000 people are dead." Jones denied the allegation and alleged that DeSantis was behind the raid, noting that the judge who approved the warrant was appointed by DeSantis just weeks earlier.

    "They took evidence of corruption at the state level. They claimed it was about a security breach. This was DeSantis. He sent the gestapo," she wrote on Twitter. "This is what happens to scientists who do their job honestly. This is what happens to people who speak truth to power."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDeac View Post
    About a year ago, there were only two leaders being forced to publicly deal with this crisis. Trump was downplaying it. Cuomo was addressing it. That was the contrast. Cuomo got credit for addressing it.
    I can't judge Cuomo's overall response to the pandemic, but I find fault with two things, one of which pertains to the issue at hand. On March 25th Cuomo mandated that "No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the [nursing home] solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19". The advisory stated. "[Nursing homes] are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission." As a result, some 9000 Covid positive patients were admitted to NH's. Cuomo justifiably received a lot of heat over that mandate and ultimately tried to claim that he really wasn't forcing the nursing homes to take Covid patients. Concealing the fact that the deaths currently in question should be regarded as nursing home deaths gave Cuomo cover from further criticism. He deserves every bit of the scorn he's receiving.

    The other thing Cuomo did that I find fault over is his March 24th demand that the Feds send NY 30,000 ventilators when the entire Federal stockpile was 12,000-13,000. The Feds sent 4,400 which turned out to be enough.

    In a nutshell, I believe Cuomo panicked and made a crazy decision and a crazy demand on back-to-back days in late March. Like Trump, he also ignored or over-ruled his own medical experts, resulting in the following:
    "The deputy commissioner for public health at the New York state Health Department resigned in late summer. Soon after, the director of its bureau of communicable disease control also stepped down. So did the medical director for epidemiology. Last month, the state epidemiologist said she, too, would be leaving.

    The drumbeat of high-level departures in the middle of the pandemic came as morale plunged in the Health Department and senior health officials expressed alarm to one another over being sidelined and treated disrespectfully, according to five people with direct experience inside the department.

    Their concern had an almost singular focus: Gov. Andrew Cuomo."

    https://www.capitalgazette.com/coron...fc4-story.html
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    Oh yeah, DeSantis is worse. At least Cuomo was trying to contain the pandemic. DeSantis and Trump tried to minimize/ignore it.

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    ALBANY, NY—In response to criticism over his handling of the pandemic, New York governor Andrew Cuomo reportedly unveiled a plan Monday to reduce the spread of Covid-19 at nursing homes by throwing all residents out onto the street. “The elderly are one of the groups most vulnerable to Covid, and we will dramatically reduce nursing home deaths by closing all of these facilities immediately and evicting all the residents,” said Cuomo, who defended himself against accusations that he had mishandled the spread of coronavirus within adult care facilities by claiming that it never would have happened if they had closed all facilities before the pandemic even started. “There is a simple solution here, and I promise you we’ll see exactly zero deaths in our nursing homes from coronavirus, or anything else for that matter, once there isn’t a single nursing home resident left. Putting them out on the streets, where transmission is lower, is the only way to protect our elderly New Yorkers. Starting this Friday, I pledge that all nursing homes in the state of New York will be completely Covid- and resident-free.”
    https://www.theonion.com/andrew-cuom...nur-1846175584

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    Ok, fine, the numbers were off, but Cuomo’s point still stands.
    Birds are real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFU71 View Post
    "The deputy commissioner for public health at the New York state Health Department resigned in late summer. Soon after, the director of its bureau of communicable disease control also stepped down. So did the medical director for epidemiology. Last month, the state epidemiologist said she, too, would be leaving.

    The drumbeat of high-level departures in the middle of the pandemic came as morale plunged in the Health Department and senior health officials expressed alarm to one another over being sidelined and treated disrespectfully, according to five people with direct experience inside the department.

    Their concern had an almost singular focus: Gov. Andrew Cuomo."
    The party of science strikes again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Angus View Post
    Hahaha - No conclusions drawn from the USF professor. Just surprise. That's some serious science-ing going on at USF.

    With this impressive sourcing, I'm surprised the salon article didn't quote the COVID "scientist" Rebekah Jones on twitter. Oh wait... it did a few paragraphs later:
    LOL. Like I said, you just love DeSantis, don't you Angus? You didn't even address the other article, and there are plenty of others out there with similar accusations, should you care to look (and I know you don't.) It's almost like you've got a double standard or something. Maybe, in this case, a Democratic blue state governor and a Republican red state governor were both having their administrations cover up and shade the data. Wouldn't be the first time it has happened, and it's dead wrong no matter who did it.

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