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Totally Unofficial 2021/22 Premier League Thread (NWT)

BillBrasky said:
Throw a flare at Michael Oliver please.
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The same Michael Oliver who didn't card Jordan Pickford for his horror tackle of VVD? Yeah, he's definitely part of a conspiracy against Everton.
 
BTB said:
The same Michael Oliver who didn't card Jordan Pickford for his horror tackle of VVD? Yeah, he's definitely part of a conspiracy against Everton.
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Not quite accurate. VAR decided van Dijk was offside, and therefore awarded no penalty and no red card. And then after the match when news came out about the injury, Pickford was forced to hire bodyguards to accompany him to the training ground, because lunatic Liverpool fans were sending him dozens of death threats.
 
TownieDeac said:
Not quite accurate. VAR decided van Dijk was offside, and therefore awarded no penalty and no red card. And then after the match when news came out about the injury, Pickford was forced to hire bodyguards to accompany him to the training ground, because lunatic Liverpool fans were sending him dozens of death threats.
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Umm no. You can still give a red card even if he's offside, a point which Oliver himself made after the fact when acknowledging the he had made a mistake not sending off Pickford.

Getting back to the original issue, it's profoundly ridiculous to believe that Oliver or any premier league ref is involved in a conspiracy against Everton, Arsenal or any other team.
 
BTB said:
Umm no. You can still give a red card even if he's offside, a point which Oliver himself made after the fact when acknowledging the he had made a mistake not sending off Pickford.

Getting back to the original issue, it's profoundly ridiculous to believe that Oliver or any premier league ref is involved in a conspiracy against Everton, Arsenal or any other team.
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VAR evaluated the player was offside, hence no penalty was given, and they also said no clear and obvious error was made by the on field official in determining it wasn't a red card offense. It's another matter altogether that Oliver felt bad after the fact that van Dijk got hurt. But we agree on your point about conspiracy. It's incompetence, not malice.
 
Blatant shoulder check nowhere near the ball and 5 yards in front of the referee not given as a foul, led directly to a shot on goal 5-7 seconds later. Great.
 
Shitty way to end the season. But if you would have told me after the opening three games that we would be a comfortable 5th at the end of the season, I would have bitten your hand off. Seeing how close we were to Champions League is going to make it feel way worse, but we are ahead of schedule anyway. Take a few weeks off and then we get firmly into silly season which should be a real treat.
 
Gooner said:
Shitty way to end the season. But if you would have told me after the opening three games that we would be a comfortable 5th at the end of the season, I would have bitten your hand off. Seeing how close we were to Champions League is going to make it feel way worse, but we are ahead of schedule anyway. Take a few weeks off and then we get firmly into silly season which should be a real treat.
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Hey you never know, Spurs could still Spurs
 
HoosierDeac said:
Yeah Maguire would never do that
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If mocking Ben White on a bad hamstring narrowly missing a desperation tackle and it deflecting in for an OG is where dv7 needs to be, let him be there.
 
Gooner said:
Shitty way to end the season. But if you would have told me after the opening three games that we would be a comfortable 5th at the end of the season, I would have bitten your hand off. Seeing how close we were to Champions League is going to make it feel way worse, but we are ahead of schedule anyway. Take a few weeks off and then we get firmly into silly season which should be a real treat.
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Then again, Arsenal were not playing in Europe and out of the FA Cup after one match, so their fixture congestion scenario will never be easier.
 
TownieDeac said:
VAR evaluated the player was offside, hence no penalty was given, and they also said no clear and obvious error was made by the on field official in determining it wasn't a red card offense. It's another matter altogether that Oliver felt bad after the fact that van Dijk got hurt. But we agree on your point about conspiracy. It's incompetence, not malice.
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Oliver told the Daily Mail: "The thought initially was, 'it can't be a penalty because it's offside so we need to check the offside first'. I think I said to the VAR, 'if it's not offside, I'm going to give a penalty'.

We have all, myself included, not thought about the challenge as much as should have done. We could still have given offside and sent Pickford off.

We got sucked too much into going step by step as opposed to thinking of the bigger process, which was considering the challenge as well and not just the fact it can't be a penalty. We should have restarted with the offside, as we did, but with a different punishment for Jordan Pickford.
 
BTB said:
Oliver told the Daily Mail: "The thought initially was, 'it can't be a penalty because it's offside so we need to check the offside first'. I think I said to the VAR, 'if it's not offside, I'm going to give a penalty'.

We have all, myself included, not thought about the challenge as much as should have done. We could still have given offside and sent Pickford off.

We got sucked too much into going step by step as opposed to thinking of the bigger process, which was considering the challenge as well and not just the fact it can't be a penalty. We should have restarted with the offside, as we did, but with a different punishment for Jordan Pickford.
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Michael Oliver has given us four red cards in the last three matches he was in the center for. Trust me, he is doing his best to atone for letting a fragile Liverpool player get hurt during an on field collision.
 
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