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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL68 View Post
    Ha
    Just to say this is your thread man, do your thing. Tell us how dangerous a gay journalist in Brazil under threat of death by Bolsonaro is to 2021 USA.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by TenaciousKory View Post
    No Place to Hide was a decently written book, iirc. A bit lacking critically but it was written p soon after Snowden so

    I'm not close enough to ProgTwitter to understand what this thread is about I guess
    Glenn Greenwald being a right wing white nationalist apologist douche who regularly stans on Tucker Carlson's and Laura Ingraham's white power hours?

  3. #23
    Mhbdeac: die you landlord scum!!!
    Crickets
    I post a couple of tweets about Glenn Greenwald that include cracks on the far left.
    OMG log off the internet! I bet you know Neera Tanden's name too even though it's been in the national press constantly for the past several weeks!!!

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    Just to say this is your thread man, do your thing. Tell us how dangerous a gay journalist in Brazil under threat of death by Bolsonaro is to 2021 USA.
    That makes it OK for him to be a virulently anti-immigration white nationalist??? One who has been trying to downplay in apologise for the attacks on the capital? One who has suddenly decided to start criticising the US power structure after taking 4 years off during the trump administration?
    Last edited by ChrisL68; 03-04-2021 at 11:11 PM.

  5. #25
    Ok let me rephrase since the first time you synthesize an original thought will be the first, Chris.

    If you’ve got a substantive complaint about someone, perhaps it’s better to lay out an argument via some context and your own feelings on the subject rather than posting two unverified tweets from randos about a person that isn’t a household name.

    In the meantime let me say I think Glenn isn’t a serious person worth your time or energy in 2021. But I think he’s useful in that the people who feel strongly about him tend to be the ones you should be worried about.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL68 View Post
    Glenn Greenwald being a right wing white nationalist apologist douche who regularly stans on Tucker Carlson's and Laura Ingraham's white power hours?
    Didn't know that. I barely know Glenn Greenwald outside of some basic name recognition and the Snowden book. I don't watch Tucker Carlson or Laura Ingraham. Dude sounds like an idiot.
    semi-aquatic like otters be.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    Ok let me rephrase since the first time you synthesize an original thought will be the first, Chris.

    If you’ve got a substantive complaint about someone, perhaps it’s better to lay out an argument via some context and your own feelings on the subject rather than posting two unverified tweets from randos about a person that isn’t a household name.

    In the meantime let me say I think Glenn isn’t a serious person worth your time or energy in 2021. But I think he’s useful in that the people who feel strongly about him tend to be the ones you should be worried about.
    Next time*

    Can’t edit

    Enjoy, Chris

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    Ok let me rephrase since the first time you synthesize an original thought will be the first, Chris.

    If you’ve got a substantive complaint about someone, perhaps it’s better to lay out an argument via some context and your own feelings on the subject rather than posting two unverified tweets from randos about a person that isn’t a household name.

    In the meantime let me say I think Glenn isn’t a serious person worth your time or energy in 2021. But I think he’s useful in that the people who feel strongly about him tend to be the ones you should be worried about.
    One of the tweets referenced daily caller interview that precipitated those responses. I posted a clarification later.
    Last edited by ChrisL68; 03-04-2021 at 11:22 PM.

  9. #29
    The year is 2036

    The president is Beyoncé

    ChrisL posts the thread “Nina Turner” with two tweets from ResistanceTina_xXx and MoscowMitchMustGo

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    The year is 2036

    The president is Beyoncé

    ChrisL posts the thread “Nina Turner” with two tweets from ResistanceTina_xXx and MoscowMitchMustGo
    As disingenuous as you pretending not to know Neera Tanden's name.

  11. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by TenaciousKory View Post
    Reading the article, it sounds like he's conflating socialism and populism a bit.
    weird, that never happens

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheCaptain View Post
    weird, that never happens
    [wittgenstein]that's what HAPPENS WHEN YOU LET YOUR LANGUAGE GO ON HOLIDAY[/wittgenstein]
    semi-aquatic like otters be.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL68 View Post
    As disingenuous as you pretending not to know Neera Tanden's name.
    No I sadly know quite deeply who Neera is, that is certainly not my point. My point is you won, Chris. All the tens and hundreds of millions of hurting people have lost yet again and yet you seem to be victimized, much like the Fox News audience, by someone who doesn’t affect your life in the least, not whatsoever, but they’re some demon in your side. You get your same tax rate, your same system of government, no real meaningful change at all, and yet you are aggrieved somehow, culturally or via something desperately online. I just don’t get the resistance lib in 2021 looking for something to be mad at the left about. You did it. You crushed us. You win. Bravo. Go find something, anything else new to be upset about other than an imagined enemy from 5 years ago. I beg you.

  14. #34
    Doubles down on disingenuous passive aggressive BS.

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    i gotta be honest, i don't understand what the fuck this all about

  16. #36
    I was just boasting a little about being right about Glenn Greenwald. Obviously struck a nerve.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheCaptain View Post
    i gotta be honest, i don't understand what the fuck this all about
    ChrisL bringing the left's version of an Angus-level-gotcha, I think? except it's directed at the left
    semi-aquatic like otters be.

  18. #38
    You’ve been hating on Greenwald since 2017 with almost 20% of all Tunnels mention of him, show us on the ChrisL doll where he hurt you. This also doesn’t seem to be some crazy gotcha or master revelation. His biggest board supporters included a troll then lost to conspiracy Moonz, a crazy Lectro, and an even crazier BSF4L.

  19. #39
    Ok this isn’t really about a single journalist though. This is about something much broader.

    I’ll go ahead and do what Brasky did earlier this week here quite bravely and double down and say the same thing jhmd or Bannon or other savvy conservative populist has pointed out since 2008 about America. That’s to say liberals haven’t figured out what happened in 2016 yet. People like Chris (or newenglanddeac or those kinds) either want to demonize Bernie Sanders and his effete surrogates (Brie Joy, Glenn Greenwald, lots of Twitter and podcast people) or perhaps worse, make a grand conspiracy about Russia. And they’d prefer to do this than to self-examine the prior 8 years or 20-30 years of Democratic Party politics.

    In fact populist politicians of many stripes, from brutal fascist dictators to the harmless democratic socialist liberals globally had documented this idea quite clearly in the mainstream, which is to say people were hurting. They were largely hurting from a massive, decades long cash giveaway from centers of political power to private enterprise. It had been diagnosed largely by marginalized media personalities on the left and the right (Greenwald first attacked US imperial power via Snowden and has since fought brutal dictatorship against Bolsonaro; he’s not invited to CNN to speak on these issues) but not taken up as a narrative by either US political party until Trump, who probably knew nothing about it. Rather, both Trump and Brexit were huge buttons on ballot boxes for millions of people worldwide to push to say “Fuck You.”

    As collectivist society has collapsed over the past fifty years across the world, monopolistic political parties in the West have abdicated power to other central authorities: the EU, central banks, Silicon Valley, etc. They’ve given up regulatory authority, privatized energy and military power, and more or less said to their constituents that you get what you want now in the form of individualized society. This particular diagnosis is not one I’ve really ever wanted to dive into here in the past as I doubt it bears much fruitful discussion (and certainly this thread doesn’t stand much of a chance). But since Chris is claiming some sort of moral victory I felt it bore further explanation. Greenwald isn’t a serious voice worth your attention, but he’s a truth teller of sorts (like Bannon or Carlson, despicable though they are). The kernels of truth behind the absolute bullshit should not be ignored.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Gossett Jr View Post
    You’ve been hating on Greenwald since 2017 with almost 20% of all Tunnels mention of him, show us on the ChrisL doll where he hurt you. This also doesn’t seem to be some crazy gotcha or master revelation. His biggest board supporters included a troll then lost to conspiracy Moonz, a crazy Lectro, and an even crazier BSF4L.
    Two mentions since last May neither in threads I started. Once when someone asked about the NY times reporter who got fired where he was part of the story.

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