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  1. #321
    is that the Kauaʻi ʻōʻō !! I was listening to a recording of them the other day.
    semi-aquatic like otters be.

  2. #322
    Quote Originally Posted by birdman View Post
    Hawaii is an ecological disaster area.
    RIP:
    To clarify:

    My second "job" out of undergrad was a 6 month internship in Hawaii working with a team trying to save the Po'ouli from extinction. It was a endemic bird with a specialized diet of land snails in the west Maui Mountains, only discovered in 1973 but in 2000 there were only 3 known individuals left. Now there are 0 as the last known individual died from avian malaria in captivity in 2004. I loved living there, I learned so much, and had tons of fun, but the outcome scarred me and Hawaii makes me sad now.
    Birds are real.

  3. #323
    is there a recording of the call?
    semi-aquatic like otters be.

  4. #324
    Quote Originally Posted by birdman View Post
    To clarify:

    My second "job" out of undergrad was a 6 month internship in Hawaii working with a team trying to save the Po'ouli from extinction. It was a endemic bird with a specialized diet of land snails in the west Maui Mountains, only discovered in 1973 but in 2000 there were only 3 known individuals left. Now there are 0 as the last known individual died from avian malaria in captivity in 2004. I loved living there, I learned so much, and had tons of fun, but the outcome scarred me and Hawaii makes me sad now.
    That is sad :-(

    How much of their extinction comes down to man-made(?) causes (habitat loss etc.)? Also wow only 3 seems like a crazy long-shot to save the species. Are there any success stories for birds with numbers that low?!

  5. #325
    Quote Originally Posted by TenaciousKory View Post
    is there a recording of the call?
    I'll search for one. I am told it was not a pretty song, more of a chitter chitter call.

    Here is a video of the last desperate attempt to save it:

    I work with all these people, Jim, Jamie, Trent, Chris, Bill, Marci, about 3 years before this video and we were practicing with the translocation work, by translocating Maui creepers, related but less endangered bird. The exact same thing happened to us, we'd move the birds and a day or two later they had returned home to their home range.
    Birds are real.

  6. #326
    Quote Originally Posted by Deacfan2009 View Post
    That is sad :-(

    How much of their extinction comes down to man-made(?) causes (habitat loss etc.)? Also wow only 3 seems like a crazy long-shot to save the species. Are there any success stories for birds with numbers that low?!
    It was all do to exotic animals, mostly pigs, rats and mosquitos. The pigs destroyed the forest understory where the terrestrial snails lived, rats ate the nests, and mosquitos spread disease. Mosquitos/malaria, have driven dozens of Hawaiian birds to extinction or the edge of it in the last 150 since they were first introduced to the archipelago.

    The New Zealand Black Robin was brought back from 5 known individuals to ~250 today, the California Condor had about 12 individuals left and now has 200, and the Whooping Crane had about 20 and now has ~500. So it can be done, but 3 gives 0 margin for error.

    Meant to include this link:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_...d_distribution
    Last edited by birdman; 04-13-2021 at 05:43 PM.
    Birds are real.

  7. #327
    I thought the real losers were Laos and Cambodia.

  8. #328
    Everything I know about bird preservation I learned from birdman and Jonathan Franzen.

  9. #329
    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    lol owned, DC
    Let's walk that statehood thing back a little bit.

  10. #330
    Might need to make some pizzas on the Egg this weekend.

    Iíve gotten it I to my head that we need to redo our objectively nice kitchen. Now every time I cook in it slight annoyances become oversized annoyances that just reinforce my thought we need to redo the kitchen which becomes a vicious cycle.
    Hungry

  11. #331
    Why didnít you guys tell me DG3 was posting again. I love that guy. He points out how fat we all are and tells us we suck and heís awesome.

  12. #332
    Quote Originally Posted by BiffTannen View Post
    Let's walk that statehood thing back a little bit.
    Because racists and anti government idiots think poorly of dc?

  13. #333
    I have a Baking Steel that makes fantastic pizzas in the oven.

  14. #334
    Mmmmm pizza...I'm gonna have pizza and wings now. Thanks for the extra lbs, Barca!

  15. #335
    Quote Originally Posted by BarcaDeac View Post
    I have a Baking Steel that makes fantastic pizzas in the oven.
    After all this pizza talk today my wife RANDOMLY decided to do pizza for dinner tonight. She used our baking steel and it came out pretty good, but a little dense. Guess that happens when you use Whole Foods pre-made crust.

    Toppings were on point though.. a regular cheese & pepperoni (back-up for kiddo) and then a Gruyere, Caramelized Onion, and Bacon pie for me and her.

    Funny the way the world works.

  16. #336
    Quote Originally Posted by birdman View Post
    It was all do to exotic animals, mostly pigs, rats and mosquitos. The pigs destroyed the forest understory where the terrestrial snails lived, rats ate the nests, and mosquitos spread disease. Mosquitos/malaria, have driven dozens of Hawaiian birds to extinction or the edge of it in the last 150 since they were first introduced to the archipelago.

    The New Zealand Black Robin was brought back from 5 known individuals to ~250 today, the California Condor had about 12 individuals left and now has 200, and the Whooping Crane had about 20 and now has ~500. So it can be done, but 3 gives 0 margin for error.

    Meant to include this link:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_...d_distribution
    Should have known it was those feral pigs. Had a tour guide that went on and on about how terrible they were for a while. He was a trained geologist though, so was way more into talking about LAVA and ROCKS.

    Reading about Black Robins now and I am blown away: https://www.australiangeographic.com...e-black-robin/

    Great work bird people!

  17. #337
    I rarely bother trying to make my own pizza anymore

    Itís a not insignificant part of our monthly food budget

  18. #338
    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    lol my son has only slept for 7 hrs once in his ~ 7 months of life, which means i haven't had an uninterrupted night of sleep in 7 months

    we're still in the wake up every 3-4 hrs sitch; think he may have some sinus issues compounding general fussiness

    he's so cute though
    Quote Originally Posted by TownieDeac View Post
    I rarely bother trying to make my own pizza anymore

    Itís a not insignificant part of our monthly food budget
    Whatever it takes to survive !!! (though y'all have been doing pizza night for far longer than baby)

  19. #339
    Quote Originally Posted by Deacfan2009 View Post
    Should have known it was those feral pigs. Had a tour guide that went on and on about how terrible they were for a while. He was a trained geologist though, so was way more into talking about LAVA and ROCKS.

    Reading about Black Robins now and I am blown away: https://www.australiangeographic.com...e-black-robin/

    Great work bird people!
    it is the only reason somebody would ever need an assault rifle.


  20. #340
    Mako vs DG3 for manliest bro on the boards.

    $500 on the line

    Winner compares dicks with DV5.75

    Winner of that has immunity to all arguments

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